The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (Prime)

I don't know what I was expecting, but people getting upset/annoyed that a female orc and baby got 3 seconds of screen time is pretty amusing to me.

I have to say, I enjoyed all 3 episodes. Maybe episode 2 was a bit weaker than the others, but I was quite tired when I watched it.

Looking forward to episode 4.

Poor attempt at hand-waving off legit criticism as "three seconds of screen time" - when another poor naraative choice that pulls people out of the World has been taken, I said they'd done well to steer clear of the "the message" in 1 and 2 and here we are with Orc Lives Matter, even though in Tolkien's morally unambiguous good v evil ME, they are the embodiment of that evil.

But did you enjoy the crying though?

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I don't know what I was expecting, but people getting upset/annoyed that a female orc and baby got 3 seconds of screen time is pretty amusing to me.

I have to say, I enjoyed all 3 episodes. Maybe episode 2 was a bit weaker than the others, but I was quite tired when I watched it.

Looking forward to episode 4.

I think you are missing the point a little. People don't say "great show but what the hell was that about". Its just one of many little stupid things that ruins the overall quality of the show and shows that they don't understand the source material or world they are writing.There were crappy bits in the LotR films but the overall quality was so good that they are blips rather than anything more.
 
I was honesty expecting about 5 minutes of Orc family time the way people had been banging on about it.

The crying didn't bother me.

From memory:

A boy cried at his mothers funeral (standard)
Isildur had teary eyes about a story where he blamed himself for his mums death and hadn't told anyone else his whole life
The queen had tears when one of her subjects slapped her for the death of her son in the Southlands.
 
I was honesty expecting about 5 minutes of Orc family time the way people had been banging on about it.

The crying didn't bother me.

From memory:

A boy cried at his mothers funeral (standard)
Isildur had teary eyes about a story where he blamed himself for his mums death and hadn't told anyone else his whole life
The queen had tears when one of her subjects slapped her for the death of her son in the Southlands.


And no-one cares because no-one was invested in any of those characters that died, or the ones doing the crying either. Which is why the unearned emoting is cringe. Take for example Soysildur, no-one likes this portrayal because he's just weak and stupid (did we ever meet his mother, how was she portrayed? did we get to know her so, we could feel sorrow for her passing?) not strong or heroic. Yet if Eowen has been killed, and everyone would have been affected becuase she was brave and strong and a great character. That's earned, in ROP it isn't - it's just crying.

I don't think really understand how any of this should work, you can't see the difference between how the same themes are potrayed in something great like the Trilogy, and something god awful like ROP - you just run defense for it anway.

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Episode 4 thoughts:

A small mistep by the CGI folk. They had the wrong contrast settings for the scene overlooking the ravine; The background scenary had an entirely different lighting (colour and contrast) to where they were standing. Making it obvious they were on a set. The moment the camera reverse rose, they had the proper one then. No biggie, but again those with good eyes, an OLED or decent screnes will see the descrepency easily.

Finally! Looks like the Stranger is getting the lore stuff we've all been waiting for.

Hmmm, that dwelling of Halflings seems very 80s/90s TNG. Set designers need to do better there. There's "natural" lighting (far too much of it), but clearly "inside" somewhere.

And, confirmation. It's Bombadil! :D (But no confirmation yet this Stranger is our Gandalf, could be Saruman for all we know all we know is they're a Wizard)

It's starting to sound like the writers that handle Elrond and Durin are the ones handling Stranger and Bombadil. So that's good.

The melee fighting against the Wights was clonkey. It was largely due to fighting CGI floaty ghostly enemies and so lacking physics of any type of impact, but some would have been appreciated given they were reacting to their blade strikes. Otherwise, it's still largely the Galadriel actress needing training; she basically stabbed one Wight with a rounded motion of her arm (like a slap) instead of a straight motion (thrust).

Hmmm, seems illogical that Wildman female wouldn't have just ran away given the chance.

Hmmm, Ent Wives maybe? Or just female sounding Ents?

OK, so yeah, ranged (bow) action is where they really need to keep Galadriel with, her melee style still needs work, but the ranged is very serviceable (stunt workers can sell the impacts of shots, etc).

Uhh... Plot Armour in action. Galadriel - without using any sort of power and she has none at this point in this series, is not going to be holding back all those Orcs, not when they all have ranged weaponry and outnumber her many many many times over. They could all have spat on her and she would have drowned. She would have been very much dead already. Pointless grandstanding, to make her seem impressive when she clearly isn't. Especially given how easy it was after to neutralise her. Should have missed out that little speech and instead made it seem more like an effort by the Orcs to capture her.

Not bad, certain aspects need tightening up, but defintely not bad.
 
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For someone who liked season 1..is season 2 as good/better?

It was a solid watch for me. But far from amazing.
 
If you liked the first season, why not just give the second a go instead of asking other people's opinions first? I don't mean that in a bad way, but it's best to avoid the priming effect.

It's a marmite show, so you're really only going to get two opinions, as seen in some of the previous posts above.
 
If you liked the first season, why not just give the second a go instead of asking other people's opinions first? I don't mean that in a bad way, but it's best to avoid the priming effect.

It's a marmite show, so you're really only going to get two opinions, as seen in some of the previous posts above.
Yeah I get you. I was just wondering if those people who liked the first. Did they think the second was same standard.

Been really disappointed with dragon prince season 4 onwards as it seems so different to 1-3 as an example.
 
Good episode overall, still not nailing some scenes that should not be too difficult. The wight fight scene they were just stood around, at least look scared.

The mud monster one, he just jumps out randomly killing the monster whilst trying to look cool doing it. They are really trying hard to make him look cool / legalas like but not really working.

Still a solid episode and building nicely.

wonder if Galadriel and Adar will work together?
 
Second season so far is better than the first but thats not a high bar IMO. I just keep coming back to the fact that this show is just...OK. Could have been great but they make constant missteps and the whole thing just ends up being boring.

I have no interest in the Numenor plotline. The black elf/Isildor storyline doesn't seem to be going anywhere and is boring. In fact, the only thing that has any vague intrigue is the east star when its not just hobbity rubbish.

As someone said above. They don't seem to be able to make a convincing world. The hobbit "trench" looked awful and they can't seem to work out how to make the world "lived in" far too often. Every time Galadriel is on screen is also painful. She is a caricature.
 
It wasn't as bad as the other 3 and I didn't want to tear my eyes out watching it, it was a slog through, long, boring and I was sleepy 2/3rds into it.

I actually liked the depiction of Tom Bomberdil, It's pity he was in completely the wrong location and dressed completely differently

More dull this week rather than offensively bad. Galadriel continues to be the absolute worst part of this show, even her talking is grating. "Elorrrrrrrond" She doesn't need to roll her r's like that every other word in a desperate but crappy attempt to sound Elvish, it's embarrassing.
 
Surely there won't be a season 3 of this abomination


I don't they dare lose face tbh, it will limp on, but something Nerdrotic said made sense, they may seriously cut down S4 and S5. So condensing S4 and S5 down to 4 EPS each, meaning it's effectively 4 seasons, but they get to pretend it's still 5.

The ratings show that ROP is basically finished as a serious television show. You only get one chance to make a first impression and people have seen enough.

What an absolute disaster this has been and anyone who followed the develpment of the show closely as I and many other fans did could see this coming a mile off.
 
On episode 3. I didn't mind episode 1 but it's starting to get silly.....

Sauron has had time to get to Kelembrimbor, stay a few nights and the dwarves have also had time to ride over. All while Gladis and the king are workshopping the team to go investigate their most dangerous enemy. Right.
 
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