But orcs were specifically made to be evil by sauron. Just like ungoliant was evil too.
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But orcs were specifically made to be evil by sauron. Just like ungoliant was evil too.
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This is just wrong. If there is one thing we can say categorically it is that Sauron had no part in their creation.
Ungoliant's origins were never explored fully by Tolkien either.
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Sorry, meant morgoth not sauron.
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Why punish yourself like that?
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I just want to know one thing which seemed utterly pointless to even make a scene
What was the point in Sauron going to Mordor as Halbrand to get locked up and then released apart from just to kill the old man with the sonic the hedgedog like it was a side quest ?
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He said it was to set his people free, and his people were apparently set free as part of the deal he made in Mordor, though I don't think we ever saw who they were. I had assumed that perhaps they were shown in S1, but I didn't get far enough into S1 to know!
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They weren't his people though so why would he actually care what happened to them lol, unless there's some plot armour for them and one of them ends up as 1 of the 9 Nazgul (be funny if Theo ends up a Nazgul the little ****)
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Do you also enjoy self-flagellation?
Just watched EP3.
That was stupendously awful. Back to Numenor (a clear weakspot from S1) and it's worse than ever - same plastic armour, some of the worst acting and characters I've seen in years, it felt like a daytime soap. The dialogue was so so poor, Arundull and Theo (neither of these two could act their way out of a paper bag). Arundull is what he was in S1, a cure for Insomina, absolutely zero charisma whatsoever, he delivers his lines like he's reading a powerpoint on the quaterly sales figures.
And the CW is back, with a weakling Isildur, the utterly cardboard Elendil, the dreadful Arazon and the blind queen, they've found what I imagine will be a replacement for the terrible Yawnwyn, and she's little better. Cumulatively the whole Numenor ensemble is amatuer dramatics level, with writing to match. What an absolute travesty.
The whole of the episode was just laughable, EP 1-2 and showed some promise I thought, this was like they almost just gave up. I'd happily give 1-2 a cumulative 6, which considering S1, would be a very good mark.
But this?. An absolute embarassment, cover your eyes bad throughout.
2/10.
That was stupendously awful. Back to Numenor (a clear weakspot from S1) and it's worse than ever - same plastic armour, some of the worst acting and characters I've seen in years, it felt like a daytime soap. The dialogue was so so poor, Arundull and Theo (neither of these two could act their way out of a paper bag). Arundull is what he was in S1, a cure for Insomina, absolutely zero charisma whatsoever, he delivers his lines like he's reading a powerpoint on the quaterly sales figures.
And the CW is back, with a weakling Isildur, the utterly cardboard Elendil, the dreadful Arazon and the blind queen, they've found what I imagine will be a replacement for the terrible Yawnwyn, and she's little better. Cumulatively the whole Numenor ensemble is amatuer dramatics level, with writing to match. What an absolute travesty.
The whole of the episode was just laughable, EP 1-2 and showed some promise I thought, this was like they almost just gave up. I'd happily give 1-2 a cumulative 6, which considering S1, would be a very good mark.
But this?. An absolute embarassment, cover your eyes bad throughout.
2/10.
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I dunno about that, Numenor being a soap opera seems apt I think considering the isolationism and decadence.
Then again a more corrupt society filled with backstabbing makes more sense but there's no time for that nowadays when you only get 8 episodes every 2 years.
Then again a more corrupt society filled with backstabbing makes more sense but there's no time for that nowadays when you only get 8 episodes every 2 years.
House of Dragon is nothing but a "corrupt society filled with backstabbing" and they manage to make it compelling for the entire season.
If you though they did "court intrgue, backstabbing and scheming" well in that episode I don't know what to say. It was Sci-Fi channel fan-fic level
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Well yes it was pretty bad on that account, but had they tried to do a GRRM inspired Middle Earth I'm not sure many fans of the movies would be interested though I may be wrong.If you though they did "court intrgue, backstabbing and scheming" well in that episode I don't know what to say. It was Sci-Fi channel fan-fic level. Oh and of course we've got gravity defying Aarondull back again...
But they haven't done a Tolkien inspired ME either, or a portrayal of ME that feels like the films either. They've just made this mess instead.
I think the political backstabbing stuff is much better suited to an ‘R-rated’, unflinchingly brutal show like Game of Thrones. I’m rewatching that - it’s brilliant - but it’s pretty shocking at times, even on a rewatch. There’s lots of compelling threat and passion that is wildly off limits for a ‘family audience’.
Maybe GoT just ramped up the dial so much that everything in comparison will seem flacid.
Unfortunately, I predict that it will be a little hard to watch RoP after rewatching GoT!
Maybe GoT just ramped up the dial so much that everything in comparison will seem flacid.
Unfortunately, I predict that it will be a little hard to watch RoP after rewatching GoT!
I agree it is better suited to R rated. But that doesn't mean it has to be poorly written and poorly acted. I've said before that a major problem with this show from the outset was a very very mediocre cast. But nothing tops the writing as an issue, it is terrible and I really did think EP1 and 2 - were much better than what had gone before, and then onto EP3 right back down to the lows of S1.
The whole Numenor cast is terrible, Elendil is a plank, Isildur in particular is awful and as wet as a fishes wet bits, as is Arundull the charisma vacuum, the young lad playing Theo is trying his best but he shouldn't be in a show with this budget. What a wasted oppurtunity this show was.
And so much crying...
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Crying is consistent with the material. Even in stuffy 1940's Britain where men don't cry, Tolkien's characters were often tearful.