The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (Prime)

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Lol why can’t you all just be normal and watch something without bringing your real world politics into it.

I’ve watched all 3 episodes twice over and the shade of characters skin was the last thing on my mind.

It’s you guys bringing your real world racist politics into it when watching, it’s in your heads not the show.

If it pleases you all I read that Lenny Henry will be recast as Elrond next season but thankfully he will be in white face so will fit proper init.
 
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So the fans are bringing real World racial politics into the show? and it's in our heads not amazon studios?







It's all there: They even have an inclusion playbook!


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That’s great and nice to see as a organisation they have a diversity and inclusion policy.

Where’s the problem and how does that counter that you are bringing your real world politics into the show when watching?
 
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That’s great and nice to see as a organisation they have a diversity and inclusion policy.

Where’s the problem and how does that counter that you are bringing your real world politics into the show when watching?
all we are doing is commenting on Amazon's decision to bring real-world politics into their shows regardless of what the source material states..

tldr - they started it 1st :cry:
 
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That’s great and nice to see as a organisation they have a diversity and inclusion policy.

Where’s the problem and how does that counter that you are bringing your real world politics into the show when watching?

So who exactly brought in real-world politics into the show? who is talking about percentages and quotas for people?

Hmmm?
 
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When watching the show its you, I and many others watched the same show as you and it hasn’t even registered some of the actors have different skin colours. That’s direct from your brain.
 
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When watching the show its you, I and many others watched the same show as you and it hasn’t even registered some of the actors have different skin colours. That’s direct from your brain.
And yet there are loads of shows we do watch that have actors of all races and sexuality and you don't hear a peep out of us regarding those, why do you think that is? Do you think the reason people are vocal on this forum about this show and also the likes of Wheel of Time (another stellar amazon production) is because
A. we have issues with people's skin colour/sexuality?
or
B. we have issues with tv shows not staying true to the established lore and world created?
 
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When watching the show its you, I and many others watched the same show as you and it hasn’t even registered some of the actors have different skin colours. That’s direct from your brain.

So who brought in the percentages and qoutas for people?

The fans or amazon?

It's not "direct from my brain" when amazon spent a year talking incessantly about diversity and inclusion.

Again have you read through their manuals?
 
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Again, if people want to see representation that reflects real life with black dwarfs/elves or whatever, then you can expect people to apply real world logic to the scenario. The showrunners and people like yourself that call for DiVerSiTy anD rEprEsEntATion to be seen in fantasy tv shows should be expected to be questioned how it fits into said world. You can't have it both ways, unless you are, and to quote a fellow forum user, telling people to 'shut up and consume' :D

This makes zero sense and you are just creating strawman arguments.

My post was singularly about how stupid it is that some people are getting annoyed about the black cast due to the real world biological mechanics of melanin. It is an adaption of an old fantasy world.

For a start, you and I have no idea why they cast the actors they did. You seem to just be assuming they were picked only because they were black/for diversity and not because of their talent/fitness for the role.

Even if they did actively choose to have a more diverse cast, why does it even matter? It is a fantasy land with wizards, orcs, giant spiders, power rings, ghosts and immortal beings.
 
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This makes zero sense and you are just creating strawman arguments.
How exactly? If a company is adding Real Life elements into a show, at least be consistent and have sound reasons why. A black dwarf doesn't make sense in the same way a black human would.
For a start, you and I have no idea why they cast the actors they did. You seem to just be assuming they were picked only because they were black/for diversity and not because of their talent/fitness for the role.
"To reduce invisibility in entertainment, and where the story allows, we aim to include one character from each of the following categories for speaking roles of any size, and at minimum 50% of the total of these should be women: (1) lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or gender non-conforming / non-binary; (2) person with a disability; and (3) three regionally underrepresented racial/ethnic/cultural groups (e.g. in the US, three of the following: Black, Latinx, Indigenous, Middle Eastern/North African, or Asian / Pacific Islander or Multi-Racial). A single character can fulfill one or more of these identities.

Most productions have a multitude of speaking roles, from leads to smaller roles. Where it doesn’t compromise the authenticity of the story, the minimum aspirational goals for casting across speaking roles are 30% white men, 30% white women and non-binary people, 20% men from underrepresented races and ethnicities, 20% women and non-binary people from underrepresented races and ethnicities. Where we can have more people from underrepresented racial/ethnic groups, we will seek to do that. These goals apply to open casting roles as well as talent attached to the project at the time an agreement is signed with Amazon Studios. We also aspire to cast at least 10% of our roles with people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or gender non-conforming / non-binary; and 10% with people who self-identify as a person with a disability. Amazon Studios is dedicated to making a good faith effort to inclusive casting and we encourage our partners to do the same"

Even if they did actively choose to have a more diverse cast, why does it even matter? It is a fantasy land with wizards, orcs, giant spiders, power rings, ghosts and immortal beings.
for the 1000th time, the rules were set by the creator of the world the tv show is a part of. I would have liked a show that focused on storytelling 1st, not some bad attempt to portray a fantasy world that has to have stupid quotas of race and sexuality set out by some overpaid executive because they think that entertainment needs to have reflections of the real world.

I don't expect Korean-made tv shows to have an arbitrary number of white people or black people, I just expect them to tell a decent story 1st and foremost. Amusingly enough I've already seen twitter crazies that cheer the representation in this and WoT demand the sequel to Squid Games include a certain percentage of racial minorities.
 
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For a start, you and I have no idea why they cast the actors they did. You seem to just be assuming they were picked only because they were black/for diversity and not because of their talent/fitness for the role.

They literally have quotas and percentages...it's right in front of your eyes!

:D
 
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I'm going to try again this weekend. Last time I gave up after 15-20min when the blonde chick roundhouse kicked a 30 ton troll into submission. The story may failed to interest (the first 15min anyway), but the visuals on my OLED was just sublime. For that alone it's worth trying again.
 
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Great episode all round, durin and Elrond scenes / well the dwarfs in general was awesome.

Not sure how they are gonna do a satisfying ending to the season within 4 episodes given its slower pace. Not bothered either way prefer a slow burner don’t need twists and turns every episode like a GoT.
 
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Just caught up on this thread. Hah

My bar for good enjoyable TV and movies isn't particularly high.

Some of the write ups here lol

We went from dull, boring but looks purdy to the frigging Shawshank Redemption.

Not sure if serious.
 
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