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THE MAGNIFICENT 7: BIG DISCOUNTS ON GRAPHICS CARDS!!

jigger said:
You would have to love trees to be concerned about 40 watt difference, and I mean properly go out on long walks at night alone and love trees.

No one really cares about power use. I'll take 500 watt graphics card.
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You've said this before and we've answered before...

More power = harder working cooling system = more noise.

I guess as well as "loving trees" you frown on being able to hear yourself think as well :p
 
FoxEye said:
You've said this before and we've answered before...

More power = harder working cooling system = more noise.

I guess as well as "loving trees" you frown on being able to hear yourself think as well :p
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You've made the tree hugging argument a few times, thing is no one cared then and no one will now. Power use is simpply way down the list of importance. If a card offers enough performance for the money people will buy them.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
It's more of how poorly eff the cards are to their rivals and how much heat it outs out .
Sure when it's overclocked it's a lot more the 40w diff at the wall
And miners care a lot haha, had the cards been running like Nvidia, lot more poeple would be richer

If you were two buy a car, they looked identical , same BHP but was louder , hotter and used more mog compared to the cooler which was cooler, quieter and had better mpg.

How I view view Vega unfortunately as well as recieving beta drivers/emails which shows they put a lot of effort into mining .
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Not sure, I thought the big thing with Vega was overclocking and undervolting and AMD seem to be miles ahead when it comes to mining. As for the pretty bad car analogy... depends on price I suppose. Would you buy a DX11 card over a DX12? The only problem with AMD cards is the lack of availability. Performance, noise and power use are fine even for the tree huggers.
 
jigger said:
You've made the tree hugging argument a few times, thing is no one cared then and no one will now. Power use is simpply way down the list of importance. If a card offers enough performance for the money people will buy them.
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It's like you see the words but you don't understand the meaning :p

I hate to break it to you... not everybody thinks the same. "Nobody cares" about power usage? If you say so!

If that was true, btw, people wouldn't have/still be mocking Vega so mercilessly. But you refuse to acknowledge that anyhow, as a massive AMD acolyte :p
 
FoxEye said:
It's like you see the words but you don't understand the meaning :p

I hate to break it to you... not everybody thinks the same. "Nobody cares" about power usage? If you say so!

If that was true, btw, people wouldn't have/still be mocking Vega so mercilessly. But you refuse to acknowledge that anyhow, as a massive AMD acolyte :p
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By people you mean the resident focus group Nvidia have set up :p No one cared about the heat or noise of the GTX 480. The card was terrible because it was overpriced and under performed. Take the GTX 480 and make it 50% faster, 25% less money and add another 100 watts and it would have been a great card. No one would have cared at that point.
 
jigger said:
By people you mean the resident focus group Nvidia have set up :p No one cared about the heat or noise of the GTX 480. The card was terrible because it was overpriced and under performed. Take the GTX 480 and make it 50% faster, 25% less money and add another 100 watts and it would have been a great card. No one would have cared at that point.
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Saying it doesn't make it true. People criticised the 480. Selective memory, much?
 
FoxEye said:
Saying it doesn't make it true. People criticised the 480. Selective memory, much?
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Well it is true. 300, 400, 500 watts and well above are easily cooled in an ATX case. Overclock an 18 core X299 chip and you will see those kind of heat loads and more.

The reason the GTX 480 was a flop had nothing to do with the power use, it just didn't perform and was horribly expensive. The focus group never got grips with that even years later.

Anyway @ Gibbo. Any Vega codes still going?
 
The "nobody" part isn't true. Just use the search function.

Basically you're repeatedly saying that "nobody" disagrees with you, and it's blatantly obvious that they do.
 
Thanks, I just ordered the Windforce 1080 for 500 green queens. My last card dropped dead so this is a saviour. I was about to retire from PC gaming after looking at the current prices.
 
FoxEye said:
Saying it doesn't make it true. People criticised the 480. Selective memory, much?
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I have a 470. In fact it's running now after I revived it by putting it in the oven for 10 minutes (I stripped it down first). It died on me around 2012-2013.

80-85 degrees is normal for it. I heard the 480 was even worse. I must admit, I'm surprised it still performs and for the last week or so it has run all the older games quite well. Sadly, it lacks DP so I've been running off mini-HDMI at a limited 60hz. It's better than a kick up the arse, though.
 
FoxEye said:
The "nobody" part isn't true. Just use the search function.

Basically you're repeatedly saying that "nobody" disagrees with you, and it's blatantly obvious that they do.
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If power use is a genuine concern then the new APU's are by far the best option. No graphics card will come close.

How many times have you seen the same bunch of people raving about the RX550 offering 1.4TFlops for 30 watts or 1260L Xeon offering almost 7700 performance for 40 watts?
 
jigger said:
If power use is a genuine concern then the new APU's are by far the best option. No graphics card will come close.

How many times have you seen the same bunch of people raving about the RX550 offering 1.4TFlops for 30 watts or 1260L Xeon offering almost 7700 performance for 40 watts?
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No amount of deflecting can alter the fact that, currently, nV give all the perf AMD do for much less power usage. Oh and less monies, currently.

Bang on all you want about how unfair it all is, but people will choose nV over AMD if the perf is the same (or better), and the power usage is lower. Esp if they're also cheaper...

AMD need to up their game. Nothing else will change the situation. This isn't any underhand tactic by the evil, greedy nV corp and their paid shills; this is 100% AMD not being good enough.
 
FoxEye said:
No amount of deflecting can alter the fact that, currently, nV give all the perf AMD do for much less power usage. Oh and less monies, currently.

Bang on all you want about how unfair it all is, but people will choose nV over AMD if the perf is the same (or better), and the power usage is lower. Esp if they're also cheaper...

AMD need to up their game. Nothing else will change the situation. This isn't any underhand tactic by the evil, greedy nV corp and their paid shills; this is 100% AMD not being good enough.
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I really don't care past I hope AMD and Nvidia don't abandon proper high end cards that push the boundary.

Where is Nvidia's 300 and 350 watt card? I would like to get a look at what that extra 100 watts of performance offers.

AMD are good enough upto the GTX 1080Ti, though I wouldn't like to see the price of the AMD card that takes on the 1080ti.
 
MissChief said:
Unless he specifically chose Saturday delivery it'll likely be Monday now.
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We'll hope for a miracle :D

But to be fair it says it's shipped Monday to Saturday so I though considering we ordered yesterday "evening" there is a chance for it to be shipped Friday and be here Saturday.

But then again, it was just a guess :rolleyes:
 
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