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I disagree I think you need to get some consistency in who is playing. At least in his backbone.

I do think it is a bit of second season syndrome after the amount of games we played last season. You see it with many clubs but City seem to be immune to it. Lol
The problem with that is that he has run players into the ground which is surely contributing to the injuries. Most of the injuries are muscle issues and not impact. The word in the background is that the intensity of training is upped and the physical demands on the players are far greater than they are used to. He also played his preferred players almost al the time last season when we played about 55 game. A fair few of the squad who played > 40 matches last season have subsequently been injured this time around and this is something that ten Hag has form for whilst at Ajax. This league is too intense to rely on 11-15 players. Howe is finding that out.

You can argue he hasn't got the squad depth required but it is what it is and we are reduced to Maguire, Lindelof and McSauce all of who only played about 20 games last time out. We are so far away from our best 11 I would contest that the likes of Pellistri , Mainoo and Mehbri should be getting more game time especially if they are ahead of the likes of Sancho, van der Beek. The manager is playing survival football and we are learning nothing. Its the same week after week and saying it will get better when the players aren't injured is not a strategy. The evidence is that injuries will continue and he has to use that as an opportunity to see whether or not the likes of Hannibal, Mainoo, Pellistri, Gore have a shot at making it or at least increasing a transfer value. I'm not writing off Mount but Hannibal has been better than him this season.
 
3 years to grow revenue by 66% to hit their 'projections', not looking good when they are only projected to increase it by 30 odd million this year :cry:

I didn’t know that they first wanted to get third party funding 4 years ago!

He also said they wanted 6.4bn for the club from Qatar.

Juve are sneaky buggers man, no wonder they got caught with their pants down though.
 
That would make sense except our most played players aren't injured. You're saying he's run Malacia into the ground? Eriksen? Hojlund?
Our most played players last season were DeGea, Bruno, Rashford, Casemiro, Shaw, Martinez, Dalot, Antony, Eriksen. Excluding the goalkeeper that means 4/8 are suffering long term injury. Malacia I think is unfortunate as he is a young player and sometimes this happens. Eriksen always looked knackered after 60 mins last year so given his recent workload I don't find it surprising that he has succumbed also. It's an intense league, we haven't been the hardest working team historically - Rangnick and Ole both pointed this out and now ten Hag is clearly doing what he thinks is required to make the team compete but my point is that the squad depth is not being used - presumably because ten Hag doesn't trust them and he is playing survival football.
 
Also all this talk of players. I've not been paying much attention but what's happened to Amrabat? Wasn't he supposed to be the saviour?
Spent most of his time so far in defence.

We need to set a starting XI and let them play for a while and actually get used to each other. They play like strangers most of the time as we have an entirely new midfield every single game.
 
Our most played players last season were DeGea, Bruno, Rashford, Casemiro, Shaw, Martinez, Dalot, Antony, Eriksen. Excluding the goalkeeper that means 4/8 are suffering long term injury. Malacia I think is unfortunate as he is a young player and sometimes this happens. Eriksen always looked knackered after 60 mins last year so given his recent workload I don't find it surprising that he has succumbed also. It's an intense league, we haven't been the hardest working team historically - Rangnick and Ole both pointed this out and now ten Hag is clearly doing what he thinks is required to make the team compete but my point is that the squad depth is not being used - presumably because ten Hag doesn't trust them and he is playing survival football.

But there is no correlation. Bruno played 3300 mins in the league, Eriksen played 2062. You can't seriously be suggesting overplaying caused his injury? (especially as we so obviously saw him turn awkwardly and slip that caused his injury)
 
But there is no correlation. Bruno played 3300 mins in the league, Eriksen played 2062. You can't seriously be suggesting overplaying caused his injury? (especially as we so obviously saw him turn awkwardly and slip that caused his injury)

Some people are just built differently. It is called genetics.
 

Bless him. Vindicated by the fact he is managing to get game time because we have had 3 first choice CBs out for much of the season.
To be fair he's not used the word vindicated, it's been posed as a question and from his point of view:

-Playing more
-He actually is performing better relatively and statistically (and no that doesn't mean he should be a united plater in my eyes)
-His value is higher than it was as the media is spinning their redemption narrative. Combined with the above statistics he'll be able to driver a better deal if he chooses to move next summer i would imagine.
-He's getting paid more than if he'd took the option to leave in the summer without the payout.

I'd be feeling fairly chuffed if only it's circumstantial.

Granted he could be completely delusional and thinking he's making his way back into the manager's plans - I wouldn't rule this out either.
 
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Maybe with Martinez back in the side their might be a future to Maguire playing on the RCB. AWB can cover him defensively as he is quick and no one gets past him really. Maguire does have good distribution and can get up the field. He is just magnificently slow.

Maguire has been pretty decent on that RCB the past few games he has been there and could see a future for him as a squad player imo.
 
Maybe with Martinez back in the side their might be a future to Maguire playing on the RCB. AWB can cover him defensively as he is quick and no one gets past him really. Maguire does have good distribution and can get up the field. He is just magnificently slow.

Maguire has been pretty decent on that RCB the past few games he has been there and could see a future for him as a squad player imo.

I do appreciate Maguire's stepped up and forward whilst United have been collapsing through injuries however unless the modern game drastically changes in the next year then Maguire isn't the answer to any top teams defence. For the chief reason you've stated, he's magnificently slow which means he's a liability in the offensive transition/counter attack.

What we often don't quite appreciate over the course of time in football is that football has gotten faster whilst maintaining technical. It's an evolution of the players that are capable of performing at the highest levels. Maguire would hyave been brilliant 15-10 years ago.. he's fallen behind now and he's not getting faster so your top forward lines will cut through him... which makes him a liability.

Naturally that's focussed on 1 player, and there's lots more in play at times rather than just individual errors, but the sport is ever more one that revolves around the 11 - a true 11 now with the keeper such a pivotal role too now. So slack players will cause problems as we see so clearly with United. Players with glimpses of ability but none of the conditioning, focus, mental stability or consistency to compete with top players. Maguire is generally one of these, but also bloody slow to add insult to injury.
 
I do appreciate Maguire's stepped up and forward whilst United have been collapsing through injuries however unless the modern game drastically changes in the next year then Maguire isn't the answer to any top teams defence. For the chief reason you've stated, he's magnificently slow which means he's a liability in the offensive transition/counter attack.

What we often don't quite appreciate over the course of time in football is that football has gotten faster whilst maintaining technical. It's an evolution of the players that are capable of performing at the highest levels. Maguire would hyave been brilliant 15-10 years ago.. he's fallen behind now and he's not getting faster so your top forward lines will cut through him... which makes him a liability.

Naturally that's focussed on 1 player, and there's lots more in play at times rather than just individual errors, but the sport is ever more one that revolves around the 11 - a true 11 now with the keeper such a pivotal role too now. So slack players will cause problems as we see so clearly with United. Players with glimpses of ability but none of the conditioning, focus, mental stability or consistency to compete with top players. Maguire is generally one of these, but also bloody slow to add insult to injury.

I meant adopting a more Man City style of playing so basically Maguire plays in midfield which is something he could potentially do. John Stones isn't particularly fast but he was integral to Pep last season.
 
Sweet Jesus Maguire in midfield would be hilarious. He has the first touch of a 4x4.

I know you are trying to be comedic and Maguire is not Man Utd quality really but one thing is his touch and passing is very good.

It is the way he is slow and uses tank controls like an old resident evil game that causes his main downfall.

People forget his penalty for England.
 
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I know you are trying to be comedic and Maguire is not Man Utd quality really but one thing is his touch and passing is very good.

It is the way he is slow and uses tank controls like an old resident evil game that causes his main downfall.

People forget his penalty for England.
No, his touch is atrocious. His passing is reasonable, but not good. He'd be a significant downgrade on McTominay (or for that matter Fred) as a midfielder.

His penalty for England makes absolutely no difference to a judgment of his first touch... It's one touch where he hits the ball at least 12 yards away from him?
 
I know you are trying to be comedic and Maguire is not Man Utd quality really but one thing is his touch and passing is very good.

It is the way he is slow and uses tank controls like an old resident evil game that causes his main downfall.

People forget his penalty for England.

With others here Adam.. you want someone who has the turning arc of the Titanic to be able to sit in the middle? He'll be robbed left, right, centre and from underneath.... Maguire also is incapable of 1 touch football, he regularly needs 3-4 to get the ball away how he likes. 1 to control and 1* to pass whilst having his neck looking over his shoulder is the antithesis of Maguire.

*God forbid asking him to play a pass without controlling the ball whilst players are closing him down...
 
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