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Trusty, you've demonstrated over the years you won't listen to the opinions of others about Moyes. I think it's disrespectful to suggest that the fans who watched every match and listened to every word he said don't know what they're talking about. Start to finish he was a lost cause for many reasons. Your own opinion is very clear.

I think we're starting to go around in circles now, and this is a thread for general Manchester United club stuff, not more endless debate about why Moyes was a failure.
 
Mourinho has been making some odd noises in the press. Duncan Castles is running a story saying he doesn't get on with Woodward, and Mourinho himself has been saying he fancies managing PSG (essentially).
 
I feel frustrated watching us and have for many seasons really.

It just feels like we have no explosiveness (despite having the likes of Martial in the side), certainly we lack players who are quick and good passers of the ball. For his reputation, Mkhitaryan is often anonymous.

Mata and Coutinho for example are both the same idea of player, yet one can do everything at twice the speed of the other, which is critical.
 
Have to say I'm finding Mourinho a bit odd. I still like him, but:

He keeps moaning about injuries
He keeps moaning about opposition managers
He keeps moaning about the fans (this is the strangest thing)
He's giving strange interviews about what he wants to do as a next job

And he's recently refused to meet with the supporters trust over his comments about the fans.

Now I know moaning is his thing and I don't mind it, but it just seems very negative after a relatively small amount of criticism about the teams playing style, why does he care about that? It doesn't normally bother him this much.

God knows what will happen if we start losing a few games.
 
As I said a little while ago, it seems we have OK defensive players, decent attacking players but nothing inbetween.

Top level games are won and lost in midfield more often than not, and ours is poor.

Matic is fine as a holding player who can screen the defence and get the ball to Pogba, who makes things tick. Without Pogba we are just hopeless.

I could reel off a long list of fast, creative players who would be huge improvements on Mkhitaryan/Mata/Herrera too, but they do all perform better with Pogba in the side.

I know Mourinho wanted Perisic and we lost out over a few million, I think he would have provided an additional spark and helped a lot, but he's still not Pogba. Mourinho was obviously banking on Pogba never getting injured which is very risky.

This is quite telling:

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That’s true, but having watched all of the games, I don’t think it’s particularly misleading. The team simply doesn’t work without him. I hope he’s back after the international break and we’ll find out...
 
He needs to do better for a new contract. Yes he won the Europa League but that was offset by the failure in the Premier League, he had no choice due to the fact we finished short of the top 4.

There's no way the club should be held to ransom by him at this stage, and it's a shame that's what he's doing.

However you want to spin it, at the moment he is being seriously outperformed by Pep.
 
I've wanted Mourinho since SAF left, but the current Mourinho is not the same as the old one. From day one he's appeared totally miserable 99% of the time, he wasn't like that before, even though there have been various incidents.

As it stands we're on a slippery slope, if things haven't improved by the end of the January transfer window, I think he'll be going at the end of the season.

It's not so much that things are going badly, there just seems to be a terrible vibe at times. I don't want him gone yet, not at all, but there are some concerns.
 
I wouldn't read too much into anything at the moment, it's likely all made up by the papers.

He's not even signed yet :p
 
Eh? Do you want me to list players I want us to buy or something? I think half of the squad need replacing with better players so it's not straightforward at all.
 
alex h said:
Mata signs new deal 12 month extension
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When we signed him (and before), I thought he was one of the best attackers in the league, but he's nothing like that now.

Yes he scores the odd goal and free kick here or there, but he's just not good enough at the top level, sadly.
 
Crazy to write Sanchez off like that after 2 games. Yes we may not get many years out of him but he's got a couple of seasons at the very least. He's not some random pace merchant.
 
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