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I wonder if Disney removed the Captain Marvel and Valkyrie scene because of the South Park episode taking the biscuit out of Kathleen Kennedy.
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Yeah, insane and totally doesn’t happen right....oh
Rotten Tomatoes Under Fire After PR Firm's Scheme to Pay Critics for Positive Reviews Uncovered - IGN
A new report details how a PR firm paid off critics to post positive reviews of 2018 drama Ophelia on Rotten Tomatoes, prompting scrutiny over the reviews aggregator.
Personally I use people whom I know share similar taste as myself, both in rl, on other forums and the occasional YouTube reviewer such as jeremy jahns
Mainly mocking you as you love to quote the rt critic score vinny
As I mentioned in respect of another comment, I really don’t buy these sorts of sentiments at all.
Having a handful films / TV with leading women or women in supporting roles isn’t changing things to be ‘female centric’. I think you’d have to be very sensitive to this sort of thing to feel that way. If anything, it’s becoming more balanced, sure.
The most recent films were:
Black Widow
Shang-Chi
Eternals
Spider-Man
Dr. Strange
Thor
Black Panther (for which it’s worth adding that the male lead that starred as Black Panther died)
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
Guardians 3
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Is that really ‘female centric’?
(Important note: criticising the ‘strong female lead’ trope in media generally is a separate point.)
Taking a look at these films The Marvels as a 6.5/10 film is better than most of them.
I haven’t watched any of them, other than Blackwidow, since seeing them all in the cinema originally. Only managed about an hour of Guardians 3 before giving up on D+
People see one female lead film and then believe the world is against the male population and everything needs to be female centric. When in truth its just the female centric version has received the same level of marketing into the male dominated area's and the poor poor boys just cant handle it.
Also there is some comedy gold in this thread.
Yeah, insane and totally doesn’t happen right....oh
Rotten Tomatoes Under Fire After PR Firm's Scheme to Pay Critics for Positive Reviews Uncovered - IGN
A new report details how a PR firm paid off critics to post positive reviews of 2018 drama Ophelia on Rotten Tomatoes, prompting scrutiny over the reviews aggregator.www.ign.com
Personally I use people whom I know share similar taste as myself, both in rl, on other forums and the occasional YouTube reviewer such as jeremy jahns
Well what do you know? The worst bit here is that it doesn't exactly surprise me, considering the point I was making about "real user" reviews.
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I'd say that its the studios who are repeatedly suffering from hundreds of millions of dollars in loses by aiming their films at a demographic which doesn't financially support them that "can't handle it" myself.
I mean doesn't this repeated level of General Public apathy and financial losses show that it's not just fans who are "poor poor boys who can't handle it" but also "poor poor women" who aren't supporting the films either? In fact doesn't it show that it's actually the vast majority of the general public, male and female, who don't support it any more?
I genuinely don't understand why people support mediocrity and then shout at people when no-one else supports it. I've said this till I'm blue in the face - "well made, acted, written 'woke' films have been shown to succeed financially, critically and with audiences everywhere - Hidden Figures, Green Book, Monster, Selma, Priscilla Queen of the Desert, Brokeback Mountain etc - so why are so many 'woke' people currently happy accepting the low quality content thats being made for them? They should be the ones campaigning hardest for high quality 'woke' films, yet they are seemingly happy accept low quality content and then shout at everyone who refuses to accept low quality content"
And which demographic came out to watch it and made it earn over a billion again because it was aimed at them? The "right" one of course, the one that brings billions of dollars to a franchise, rather than the "wrong" one which brings almost nothing in comparison as shown currently.
I absolutely stand by my comments you quoted.
People want to "like" the actors in films, and if they "like" the actors then they're more likely to part with their money to see them, which means more good PR for the actor AND the film they're in, so if the actor needs to fake a smile to do so then fake a damn smile, they're an actor so do your job and "act" happy for the camera and get great PR for you and your film, everyone wins.
However, if like Brie in this situation, they choose not to do that and instead choose to pick a scowl (at worse) or neutral expression (at best) which puts people "off" the actor and they get negative PR for themselves and the film they're in, thats all on the actor and their choices. Imagine the difference if Brie had been allowed to show more emotional range in her film, not just constant "stoic/neutral/scowling" and in the PR press junkets she'd faked being all happy and smiling, having a laugh with rest of the cast rather than appearing antagonistic to actors who the audience already like etc - all that fan/audience "negativity" goes away, the film could even have made more money and Brie may have been the lead actor in more A-List films outside of Marvel and had another career boost rather than dropping to indie films and cameos etc who knows.
Instead, due to her choice, she's now surrounded by negativity towards her, all of which could have been changed by a simple fake smile & a few hours of fake happiness.
ermm no, the vast majority of people i know didn't like it.
I personally thought it was crap.
So then everyone in the world hated it?
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That's called confirmation bias.
Read the thread for the original movie, most people here [OCUK forums] enjoyed it (which is specifically what I was talking about)
Why do you only list films when your own post states “films/TV with leading…”?
Also does Spider-Man really count when Marvel doesn’t have full control over it.
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Ok recent TV shows
She Hulk - female lead
Secret Invasion - male lead
Loki - male lead
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I enjoyed the first captain marvel film, thought it was alright, seen it a few times since it's release and its still an alright film.
My view of Brie Larson though has changed, mainly for her disrespectful comments and derogatory language towards the very people who go to see the marvel movies. While I did watch the Mavels, my expectations of it's over all quality were low and it managed to miss that bar, specially the whole singing planet I mean wtf is this a Mary Poppins musical!
Long gone are the days where I'd want to take my nephews to the movies to watch Marvel films, the last one we went to was Spider Man No Way Home and that was great, but absolutely no interest from my nephew for anything else since then. He thinks the new films are dumb and made for girls, he's only 8!
My view of Brie Larson though has changed, mainly for her disrespectful comments and derogatory language towards the very people who go to see the marvel movies. While I did watch the Mavels, my expectations of it's over all quality were low and it managed to miss that bar, specially the whole singing planet I mean wtf is this a Mary Poppins musical!
Long gone are the days where I'd want to take my nephews to the movies to watch Marvel films, the last one we went to was Spider Man No Way Home and that was great, but absolutely no interest from my nephew for anything else since then. He thinks the new films are dumb and made for girls, he's only 8!
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Literally no reason, we could add the TV shows to such a list to be really exhaustive:
Wandavision
Falcon and Winter Soldier
Loki (x2)
What if? (x2)
Hawkeye
Moon Knight
Ms. Mavel
She Hulk
Secret Invasion
I think that’s all of them?
Caporegime
Could add Werewolf by Night too, that had a male lead as well 
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The ones that do have a male character, usually end up emasculating him
See Loki get kicked in the balls repeatedly for five minutes or smacked round the face by some butch diverse woman. He was then pretty much replaced as lead actor by a female variant of himself. Good one Disney.
And don't get me started on the bait and switch that was the (Wo)mandalorian.
See Loki get kicked in the balls repeatedly for five minutes or smacked round the face by some butch diverse woman. He was then pretty much replaced as lead actor by a female variant of himself. Good one Disney.
And don't get me started on the bait and switch that was the (Wo)mandalorian.
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The ones that do have a male character, usually end up emasculating him
See Loki get kicked in the balls repeatedly for five minutes or smacked round the face by some butch diverse woman. He was then pretty much replaced as lead actor by a female variant of himself. Good one Disney.
Did you actually watch the series or is this based on heresy?
If anything the female variant of Loki was massively underused in Season 2. Sylvie barely had anything to do.
Her empowering feminine story was that she wanted to go from being a powerful God, to working in an 80's McDonalds because 'freedom'
Soldato
I did watch season one of Loki, but was less than impressed. Not bothered with season two.