The New European Super (borefest) League
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The majority only become purists when the plans disadvantage their side. Less than 12 months ago 10 of the smallest PL sides were hoping to scrap promotion to and relegation from the PL and yet you didn't hear a single thing from their fans about greed or the poor EFL sides that would have lost out.
So many people seem to have forgotten that the PL was a breakaway League from the EFL and has been set-up to be as close to a closed shop as possible. Sides relegated from the PL are given huge parachute payments, giving them a massive financial advantage over EFL sides, paving the way for instant promotion back to the PL. It's not by accident that we have these yo-yo clubs.
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City get two slots!
But why Spurs, in most of our life times they have won 1 FA cup. 2 EFL cups which most clubs barely care about and if you want to go back far enough 1 Uefa cup. That doesn't even stand up against Everton. Spurs have barely won anything!
A joke of a monopoly.
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Such as?
When you look at all the teams that have played in the PL the most amount of spells anyone has had is 5 and there's plenty with one spell even discounting the teams like Everton Liverpool etc that have never been relegated. Plenty with 2 spells too, so it's far from a given that teams bounce back with that payment.
This is all about how tv rights money gets split.
Big clubs don't like sharing the money (as they believe it's them that create the value), and also not getting any when they fail to qualify for the CL.
To understand this all you have to do is go through the history of how CL TV rights money has been allocated over the last 20 years or so.
Remember that every team is immediately awarded the same amount when they qualify for the CL (before performance payments kick in).
Then there is the market pool which was introduced to give a lot of the tv rights money to the clubs from those countries. This used to make big clubs from the big countries unhappy because they felt the, as an example, the turkish tv rights money was earnt by them and not turkish teams.
They then moved a lot of the market pool money to a payment that is allocated by uefa coefficient and paid the top 32 clubs. 32nd would get 1 share and 1st would get 32 shares.
Seems the big clubs which have pushed for these changes are still unhappy at sharing the money.
https://www.football-coefficient.eu/money/
The top premier league clubs are also obviously secretly unhappy about how evenly the PL TV money is split, although they won't say it out loud.
Big clubs don't like sharing the money (as they believe it's them that create the value), and also not getting any when they fail to qualify for the CL.
To understand this all you have to do is go through the history of how CL TV rights money has been allocated over the last 20 years or so.
Remember that every team is immediately awarded the same amount when they qualify for the CL (before performance payments kick in).
Then there is the market pool which was introduced to give a lot of the tv rights money to the clubs from those countries. This used to make big clubs from the big countries unhappy because they felt the, as an example, the turkish tv rights money was earnt by them and not turkish teams.
They then moved a lot of the market pool money to a payment that is allocated by uefa coefficient and paid the top 32 clubs. 32nd would get 1 share and 1st would get 32 shares.
Seems the big clubs which have pushed for these changes are still unhappy at sharing the money.
https://www.football-coefficient.eu/money/
The top premier league clubs are also obviously secretly unhappy about how evenly the PL TV money is split, although they won't say it out loud.
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Including Spurs in a super league did raise an eyebrow.
Seems the top 6 hand isn't looking to good ATM.
Retribution has been swift.
It's not certain but it's a huge advantage to sides that go down and giving those sides that advantage is the sole purpose of parachute payments. As for who these clubs are, clubs like Norwich, West Brom, Fulham, Newcastle - they've all been relegated and promoted back to the PL within a 1-3 years.
unless they meant Manchester City and Leicester City, which as a foxes fan I sincerely hope not and would be disgusted to hear we're involved in this.
And now the government haha.
Top 6 just got slapped down.
https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1383825693964865540?s=19
Top 6 just got slapped down.
https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1383825693964865540?s=19
I’ll hardly listen to the government when things like this are being discussed, they are the worst ones out there looking after their own
Hardly a slapping down is it.
You really get caught up in the hysteria around these things @Bigpig. Do you not think these clubs would have known about the reaction these plans would attract? Just like the previous Project Big Picture stuff, it's all one big negotiation with bluff and counter bluff. Nobody is getting kicked out of Leagues and the government won't do anything. They were going to step in over the PL's failure to offer a sufficient bailout to the EFL, when the greedy small 14 didn't want to help, but the government done **** all.
PSG and Bayern? You do know the PSG chairman is on the Uefa executive board right? As for Bayern, their chairman loves not paying tax.
Hardly angels.
You say that, but when the Premier League concept was put forward some said it was a bluff but it quickly came to be reality and the football league couldn't stop it.
a model we should have in this country IMO. majority fan ownership, by law. I would add that owners, execs and board members and their families should be prevented from owning fan shares to prevent undermining it