The New European Super (borefest) League

So what did I miss?
spudbynight said:
Jordan is a self publicist. He made a hash of running the club and tried to be a little bit too clever. Parish has done a far better job as Chairman and I think Jordan is as bitter about that as anything.

I do think we have gone off on a bit of a tangent so though so happy to leave this topic as it is.
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I agree he made mistakes and likes the sound of his own voice but he was the one PL club owner that seemed to have any principles. And yea, we're way off topic now.
 
chrcoluk said:
So loss of title and one season CL football for Manchester City.
Loss of one season CL football for Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool.
Loss of one season Europa for Spurs and no punishment for Arsenal.
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I support Arsenal ;)

But how can the owners be punished without punishing the club financially. The two are one and the same. If you punish a club like Arsenal heavily financially - struggling to compete on the fringe of the big 6 as it is arguably - they'll just sail further into their current slump and eventually be battling to stay in the prem. Spurs could go the same way. It seems that punishes the fans of these clubs through their poor ownership. But then, maybe they should stop focusing on the Pepe's of the world, and promoting quality home grown talent anyway and actually competing to win games.

Sorry got carried away there with the shambles of AFC currently.
 
There clearly needs to be punishments, but I'd question whether point punishments really achieve anything other than (rightly) giving other teams the opportunity in the european competitions. These owners have clearly shown they don't care about the football side of things, so deducting points here only punishes fans, players and the managers who have all been unanimous in opposition. There'll be loss of revenue if they are booted out of the competitions by point deductions for a year or two but I suspect that'll only really hurt the Spanish and Italian sides given their debt.

Point punishments are inevitable as probably are transfer bans and rightly so, but I'd like to see more direct sanctions and fines against the owners. Force them out, make their lives difficult, not the average joe. As we're seeing now, they'll hide behind their executives any way. It won't happen but I'd love to see the Glazers and co heavily fined and forced into sales or joint ownership.
 
Irreparable damage has been done though with this and I think it has reminded people how broken football is anyway with the money train aspect of it all. I mean it has been for a while but this just highlights it that bit more.
 
Look at the statement from UEFA on City, there's not going to be punishments. Nobody is cutting their nose off to spite their face.

The only punishment would be a proper review into football in this country and proper controls put in place but that will effect and 'punish' the entire Premier League.
 
md85 said:
There clearly needs to be punishments, but I'd question whether point punishments really achieve anything other than (rightly) giving other teams the opportunity in the european competitions. These owners have clearly shown they don't care about the football side of things, so deducting points here only punishes fans, players and the managers who have all been unanimous in opposition. There'll be loss of revenue if they are booted out of the competitions by point deductions for a year or two but I suspect that'll only really hurt the Spanish and Italian sides given their debt.

Point punishments are inevitable as probably are transfer bans and rightly so, but I'd like to see more direct sanctions and fines against the owners. Force them out, make their lives difficult, not the average joe. As we're seeing now, they'll hide behind their executives any way. It won't happen but I'd love to see the Glazers and co heavily fined and forced into sales or joint ownership.
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Agree
 
ThundyCat said:
See my edit, the owners need to be punished.
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the owners can't be punished without inflicting punishment on the club. Boris talked a good game but in reality there was nothing he could do that would have stopped this and there is nothing anyone whether that is UEFA, National FA's or a national government can do to punish owners now. The only tools they have are points deductions, transfer embargo, suspension from competitions i.e CL, EL or moving them down divisions for breaking Premier League rules. Heavy fines mean nothing as we are talking about billionaires here, so the fines would have to be to the tune of 1 billion per owner and then they would just rinse the cash out of the club anyway. Technically punishing the club will end up punishing the owners as they will be able to rinse less money out of their asset, e.g no European Football, or forced relegation to a lower league = less TV money and less revenue, so they might decide to sell up and go.
 
wildman said:
the owners can't be punished without inflicting punishment on the club.
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Yes you can. Put proper controls & regulators in place that stop these owners doing this mad **** in future because if they don't, we will be back in this position in 5 or 10 years time. Rip up the structure of English football, ensuring that PL tv money is distributed more evenly throughout the game, not just the 20 teams in the PL. That alone would punish the owners of these clubs.
 
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