The next Labour leader thread

StriderX said:
Hes automatically on it, regardless of the vague nature of the statute, as otherwise he could just bring it to court and that stalls the whole thing til its finished.
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They're saying that it is not automatic so we will have to wait and see what happens.
 
datalol-jack said:
Crikey, going to court over this would be utter bedlam.
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This is certainly not what is needed given everything else that's going on. We need a strong opposition. Corbyn isn't that but a completely fractured Labour is bad news for all concerned.
 
Nope, not at all. If the party falls to pieces, and they have to go away, reform as two camps and contest their seats again, losing support left, right and centre -- we are left with nothing at the helm. Though I expect the Tories will sort themselves out first, as they have a different system in place. Thank the lucky stars for the civil service. At least that is still knocking about.
 
datalol-jack said:
Nope, not at all. If the party falls to pieces, and they have to go away, reform as two camps and contest their seats again, losing support left, right and centre -- we are left with nothing at the helm. Though I expect the Tories will sort themselves out first, as they have a different system in place. Thank the lucky stars for the civil service. At least that is still knocking about.
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I suppose the crucial element of whoever is going to lead them next is whether they can unite the party.

I don't see Corbyn doing that.
 
How else do you win in England without either a permanent pact with a third party or going more to the right yourself? The centre being where it is after Maggie. Combining with the SNP?
 
Seeing as it's 'up is down and left is right' day, regarding Labour and the Conservatives......Andy Burnham is 44-1 to be the next leader. You never know!
 
datalol-jack said:
How else do you win in England without either a permanent pact with a third party or going more to the right yourself? The centre being where it is after Maggie. Combining with the SNP?
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They would vindicate the Tory line "Dont vote for Labour/SNP coalition then", which would be hilarious.
 
Cosimo said:
TV saying he needs 50 to get on the ballot.
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Labour party rules are not clear as to whether he would automatically get on the ballot or not. 51 MPs need to back an alternative to trigger a leadership campaign but they think they'll lose that so they want Jeremy to step down of his own accord and let them have an election without him.
 
So he won't resign because it has no constitution legitimacy.

He needs like 90 MPs to form a full shadow cabinet.... He has 40! Deary me.
 
Secret_Window said:
I've never understood why Corbyn even stayed in Labour. He voted against nearly everything they put forward. Some of his views were more in line with the Green Party than Labour.
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Actually he voted in line with much more than he voted against even with his famous rebel rating. I think he was quite in line with the party he joined - and he's still in line with its core voters and membership - but during the Blair years the party's new MPs were picked to carry the whole party to the right.
 
So MPs vote of no confidence has no standing legitimacy in the Labour Party, however Corbyn cannot bring more than 40 MPs on his side where he needs 90?

This is a disaster.
 
I have a question and Google was failing me. These MP's that quit, is it like me quitting my job? i.e. i no longer get paid, pension no longer has me or the company paying into it etc? Or do they just fall back into other roles and keep wages, membership of whatever parliament buildings?

I'm just trying to work out how serious what they have done for their beliefs is. For example i quit and i'd probably lose the house over my families head if i don't find a new job. Is it that extreme?
 
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