**THE NVIDIA DRIVERS THREAD**

[ltron]

This maybe what i was also experiencing but i couldnt put it down to drivers.. only thing i have changed in the last week was Windows creators update..

BF1 in DX11 has halved in average FPS
Mouse feels laggy in windows
dragging screens around windows also feels laggy

Reinstalled windows on Monday and still experiencing similar thing last night... games where just randomly closing with GPU overclocked (Which has run the same overclocks 24/7 for the past 6-7 months) also noticed overlay software like CAM would not load on any game which again was working fine till this all started.

Its either something in windows or game mode.. something defiantly does not feel right

Try right clicking on the exe of bf1 and in the compatibility tab tick "disable full screen optimisations", this should make it revert to old behaviour of running in true full screen.

For those having issues with artifacting on boot, try disabling " fast startup" in the power setting section of the Windows control panel.

 

[arc@css]

Well, I don't know if updating to this driver was the main problem or not, but trying to record with OBS resulted in videos which had many skipped frames in them, and also, the rendering was a bit or miss as well, so, for now, I've reverted back to the previous driver. All seems to be fine at the moment.

Perhaps I should add, FWIW, that when installing the latest driver, I also selected a clean install for the first time in ages (*shrugs*). I'm running Win 7 64.

 

[pastymuncher]

I just looked and I am now on the latest Windows 10 version (with Game Mode) released the other week or so and the option is still there just with slightly different wording ?

I haven't updated to the Creators update yet but still have that option. It's always been set to No but that doesn't stop Windows updating my gpu driver, even if it's a older version than I have installed along with choosing to ignore my sound card at every update and change it from the default.

Display Driver Uninstaller is effective at killing automatic driver updates on Windows 10. I'm not sure exactly what it tweaks, but it certainly stops it happening.

I don't use it and never will. Programs like that can cause just as many problems as they solve and I have no problems with clean installs or just installing over the top of the previous driver anyway.

 

[enigma27]

Try right clicking on the exe of bf1 and in the compatibility tab tick "disable full screen optimisations", this should make it revert to old behaviour of running in true full screen.

For those having issues with artifacting on boot, try disabling " fast startup" in the power setting section of the Windows control panel.

Tried that.. loaded BF1 and it feels like G-sync is not even working.. laggy as hell and running around 69 fps.. even if i do something crazy like change resolution scale to 25 % it only goes upto 80 fps. other games on the same engine dont seem as bad..

PS just been on the battlefield forums and seems someone has the exact same problem with bf1

 

[Aretak]

I don't use it and never will. Programs like that can cause just as many problems as they solve and I have no problems with clean installs or just installing over the top of the previous driver anyway.

You don't have to use it. All you need to do is open it and click the button that says it'll stop Windows installing drivers automatically. It's completely seperate from the uninstaller portion of the program, doesn't require it to be open and persists. You can also click it again to undo it.

Incidentally, I've never had a single issue with DDU in the years that I've been using it. It's solved a few though.

 

[tyler_jrb]

I don't use it and never will. Programs like that can cause just as many problems as they solve and I have no problems with clean installs or just installing over the top of the previous driver anyway.

I've had issues before where DDU would only solve it. Had major stuttering in games, re-install of drivers did nothing, even clicking the clean install while installing new drivers did nothing. Only DDU fixed the problem for me in the end.

I use it quite often and it has done nothing but good things.

 

[Dicehunter]

Oddly enough I'm still getting the bug where DSR isn't working, I've rebooted, Uninstalled, Reinstalled etc... and DSR will simply not work since the Creators Update.

 

[humbug]

Oddly enough I'm still getting the bug where DSR isn't working, I've rebooted, Uninstalled, Reinstalled etc... and DSR will simply not work since the Creators Update.

That does seem to work for me, what GPU? 1070 here....

 

[Aretak]

I was having some issues getting DSR to work the other day after reinstalling Windows for the new update. The extra resolutions weren't showing up in games, but then yesterday I noticed that they now were, so it fixed itself somehow.

 

[Dicehunter]

That does seem to work for me, what GPU? 1070 here....

1080 Ti, Aint got a scooby why it doesn't work.

I was having some issues getting DSR to work the other day after reinstalling Windows for the new update. The extra resolutions weren't showing up in games, but then yesterday I noticed that they now were, so it fixed itself somehow.

I'll do a few reboots and see if it clears up.

 

[Simon Belmont]

1080 Ti

I thought you had 2x 580's?

 

[Dicehunter]

I thought you had 2x 580's?

They went back, The performance per card in some of the games I play just wasn't up to snuff.
They worked well together in Alien Isolation and Elite Dangerous but that's sadly where it ended.

 

[opethdisciple]

This 'issue' with DX12 and multicore CPUs with Nvidia GPU.... We just think it's a driver limitation rather than a hardware limitation of the current 1000 series?

On the fence what to do really as an upgrade from a 970. I bought a Ryzen which I'm happy about but am happily green so the thought of an AMD GPU is confusing as pre Ryzen I wouldn't have bought an AMD GPU at all.

But sort of attracted to the idea if Ryzen/AMD and this talk of AMD drivers working better with multicore processors is also interesting.

 

[Rroff]

This 'issue' with DX12 and multicore CPUs with Nvidia GPU.... We just think it's a driver limitation rather than a hardware limitation of the current 1000 series?

On the fence what to do really as an upgrade from a 970. I bought a Ryzen which I'm happy about but am happily green so the thought of an AMD GPU is confusing as pre Ryzen I wouldn't have bought an AMD GPU at all.

But sort of attracted to the idea if Ryzen/AMD and this talk of AMD drivers working better with multicore processors is also interesting.

In the games where I've seen a significant slowdown if you look at what the busy cores/threads are actually doing there is a thread for the main game logic, a rendering thread and a driver/rendering thread that seems to be farming out rendering tasks and performance seems to hinge on that thread - people can talk about Ryzen IPC or whatever but for whatever reason that thread (maybe just a compatibility issue) seems to be ticking over faster on Intel CPUs - this isn't a multi-threading limitation as some suggest but a limitation of the marshalling of those multiple worker threads.

On AMD GPUs there doesn't seem to be that additional driver/rendering thread in the same way.

 

[BriT]

Still on 378.78, do the newer drivers offer any performance or are they just game ready drivers?

 

[opethdisciple]

In the games where I've seen a significant slowdown if you look at what the busy cores/threads are actually doing there is a thread for the main game logic, a rendering thread and a driver/rendering thread that seems to be farming out rendering tasks and performance seems to hinge on that thread - people can talk about Ryzen IPC or whatever but for whatever reason that thread (maybe just a compatibility issue) seems to be ticking over faster on Intel CPUs - this isn't a multi-threading limitation as some suggest but a limitation of the marshalling of those multiple worker threads.

On AMD GPUs there doesn't seem to be that additional driver/rendering thread in the same way.

See my main issue is actually tied to the monitor. If I go AMD or Nvidia on the GPU I will be bound by my monitor either Freesync or Gsync for the foreseeable future. (5+ years minimum)

Conversely if I was gambling I'd rather gamble on Nvidia than AMD if we base assumptions on history.

Nvidia seem to be able to iterate faster than AMD do when it comes to GPU'S. So owning a Gsync monitor will allow me to upgrade to a future Nvidia card. With no issues. If I go AMD and Freesync I'm locked in to the AMD ecosystem.

Also if this issue is just drivers and not hardware then in the future when Volta launch Nvidia might have rewritten the drivers sufficiently enough that it will also fix the problem for the 1000 series.

Dunno what to do.... Wait for Vega don't wait for Vega.... As above its more than just price. It's the locking into the ecosystem that's the issue.

 

[Rroff]

Its a shame FastSync isn't quite a complete solution yet as when it works it works quite well and makes it less of an issue if you hedged the bets and went with a FreeSync monitor.

 

[humbug]

See my main issue is actually tied to the monitor. If I go AMD or Nvidia on the GPU I will be bound by my monitor either Freesync or Gsync for the foreseeable future. (5+ years minimum)

Conversely if I was gambling I'd rather gamble on Nvidia than AMD if we base assumptions on history.

Nvidia seem to be able to iterate faster than AMD do when it comes to GPU'S. So owning a Gsync monitor will allow me to upgrade to a future Nvidia card. With no issues. If I go AMD and Freesync I'm locked in to the AMD ecosystem.

Also if this issue is just drivers and not hardware then in the future when Volta launch Nvidia might have rewritten the drivers sufficiently enough that it will also fix the problem for the 1000 series.

Dunno what to do.... Wait for Vega don't wait for Vega.... As above its more than just price. It's the locking into the ecosystem that's the issue.

Having just bought a 1070 my hope is nVidia will just come up with a solution to a problem they clearly have.....

The horrendous performance and stuttering on the i5 vs the Ryzen 6 core here is enough to convince me 4 core CPU's are dead for gaming going forward and i'm not paying £500 for an Intel when AMD do one for less than half that, Intel just don't have the performance advantage per Mhz, core, IPC or whatever measure one would want to chose Ryzen is at least as fast, i'm not paying no Intel tax..

Watch it, all of it, its an eye opener...

If nVidia can't fix this performance deficit vs AMD on my GPU with a driver fix i'm switching to Vega if its just as faster or faster than my 1070, no if's no but's it will happen, nVidia.

 

[opethdisciple]

Having just bought a 1070 my hope is nVidia will just come up with a solution to a problem they clearly have.....

The horrendous performance and stuttering on the i5 vs the Ryzen 6 core here is enough to convince me 4 core CPU's are dead for gaming going forward and i'm not paying £500 for an Intel when AMD do one for less than half that, Intel just don't have the performance advantage per Mhz, core, IPC or whatever measure one would want to chose Ryzen is at least as fast, i'm not paying no Intel tax..

Watch it, all of it, its an eye opener...

If nVidia can't fix this performance deficit vs AMD on my GPU with a driver fix i'm switching to Vega if its just as faster or faster than my 1070, no if's no but's it will happen, nVidia.

They will sort it out eventually. It is at the end of the day just a matter of rewriting the code. I guess they where waiting for the time where the average CPU core count increased beyond 4. I think we where on the cusp before Ryzen but Ryzen just blew the door open with affordable multi core CPU's so now Nvidia will have to change something in there code to make their GPU's work better with core counts above 4.

By Volta all this will be sorted. And I imagine they will back port the changes to the older cards. The fixes might even come in iteratively rather than waiting to arrive as one unit with Volta.

But yes.... I need to wait for Vega. I have a Ryzen 1700 and I imagine the AMD GPU drivers will be the best suited to get the most out of the architecture. I'll lose out on Gameworks but gain Async and better DX12 and Vulkan performance.

 

[Cookie12]

Has anyone had an issue of the system / drivers wrongly identifying the graphics card?

I've just updated my Rig from an old i7 920 but i had a GTX 1080 in that, which identified the card fine and had zero issues. I picked up a i7 7700k and new mobo etc from overclockers shop this week and used the same GTX 1080 in this new system but after installing windows and drivers the system is saying its a 980 Ti???

I've tried multiple times by uninstalling and reinstalling drivers to no avail. It isnt behaving normally either, sometimes it boots up and i just have a black screen and have to force reboot and then it works.

Full system specs if info is needed

i7 7700k
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS IX CODE Mobo
32gb Corsair Memory
Zotac GTX 1080
Windows 10 version 1703 (fresh install)
Nvidia Drivers 381.89

Hope you can help