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**THE NVIDIA DRIVERS THREAD**

Davanius said:
Just installing Windows 10 home now as I have lost my right to use pro after a motherboard change. I thought that the license was linked to my Microsoft account which it was but isn't anymore probably due to not activating it again last week after having gsync issues.

Fortunately I had an old Windows 7 key which activated the Windows 10 home version. There has been too many problems with Windows lately breaking things like 3d vision and gsync.
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Just install pro version when it asks for a key leave it blank.

You can then download a piece of software which removes the watermark.
 
Thanks for the advise but I have spent the weekend getting my system to run perfectly with everything working as it should which includes gsync and 3d vision. I ain't gonna touch it now.
 
Rroff said:
Thing is it would be one thing even if the Professional edition had the ability to take full control without resorting to messing about with GPEdit (which they seem to be treating progressively with the same attitude anyhow and probably will have limited ability to take control in the future) but nope - begs the question of why the Professional edition even exists really.

Recent events have shown that Windows 10 isn't really any more secure - there was that Defender exploit for one which seems to have been brushed under the carpet a bit but is kind of concerning - at the end of the day there are far too many end users who will just hit ignore on security prompts, etc. and end up with malware ridden toolbars and the like no matter how much MS tries to enforce security and the OS is still a long way from the kind of admin/normal user setup of Linux and the likes. If they really cared about security they'd properly split off security updates again and make them quicker and easier to install while allowing people to put off feature updates until required/they felt like it.

Much of your talk about "theoretical" stuff doesn't actually work so its daft of MS to push it - its a nice idea that breaking the system to fix it by forcing hardware/software manufacturers to up their game in terms of driver releases, etc. but time and time again its been proved that approach does not work and even then its almost impossible not to have the odd unintended bug, etc. get through.

I'll refer back to what happened on one of my systems after a recent update:

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I dunno how it even managed to get that mixed up - the entry on the left says Overview where it should say battery - the percent left and hours have got mixed up, there are sliders where a status should be and text saying slider connected to a checkbox where a slider should be, etc. - it is basically the Ralph Wiggum of OSes when you peel back the layers - looks OK at first but when you take a closer look you realise its actually pretty badly broken inside.

There are many good ideas behind Windows 10 but the execution and implementation is just plain poor and should be seen for such - trying to defend the heap of **** that Windows 10 largely is doesn't do anything towards getting it improved and actually good in the future.
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Laptops are always going to be a bit of a tricky thing to get right. So many bespoke combinations of drivers. During my years as a sysadmin maintain laptops was always a huge headache. Even the manufactures them selves don't always have the drivers available on their websites.

But back to what I was trying to get across previously with my approach, MS are basically trying to 'Applefy' the windows experience. In other words have more control over each element. Create a more consistent experience.
 
BS Dave said:
Wow calm down mate, it’s totally on topic, and it’s 1 page in what 403...
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I'm perfectly calm, just curious. I usually go to this thread before I install any new nvidia driver on my system, because I always thought this site was friendly and with a ton of helping hands. But since I couldn't find any answers in here on my questions this time, I took the chance and installed the new drivers anyway.

No problems so far I would say.
 
ctd said:
I'm perfectly calm, just curious. I usually go to this thread before I install any new nvidia driver on my system, because I always thought this site was friendly and with a ton of helping hands. But since I couldn't find any answers in here on my questions this time, I took the chance and installed the new drivers anyway.

No problems so far I would say.
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+1
 
opethdisciple said:
Laptops are always going to be a bit of a tricky thing to get right. So many bespoke combinations of drivers. During my years as a sysadmin maintain laptops was always a huge headache. Even the manufactures them selves don't always have the drivers available on their websites.

But back to what I was trying to get across previously with my approach, MS are basically trying to 'Applefy' the windows experience. In other words have more control over each element. Create a more consistent experience.
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Thing is a good percentage of their user base use Windows because they aren't looking for that Applefy experience - or would be using Macs already - not that it is necessarily a bad thing in general for them to support that experience but they need to support the ability for those that don't want it to customise their experience. That is the problem with Windows 10 in general there is a distinct lack of vision - the approach is very narrow minded, one dimensional and shows a marked lack of broader perspective or experience and is just going to drive those that don't have requirements tying them to Windows and not wanting the Applefy experience towards Linux.

It isn't just laptops - I've had similar things happen on my previous desktop installs of Windows 10 though frequent use of Windows 10 on my GPD Pocket and Toshiba Click 10 beg the question if anyone at MS actually tested Windows 10 on a portable device.

Which comes back to drivers - the current state of nVidia drivers combined with MS's approach to drivers is causing all kinds of unnecessary problems which could be seen coming years ago.
 
opethdisciple said:
Laptops are always going to be a bit of a tricky thing to get right. So many bespoke combinations of drivers. During my years as a sysadmin maintain laptops was always a huge headache. Even the manufactures them selves don't always have the drivers available on their websites.

But back to what I was trying to get across previously with my approach, MS are basically trying to 'Applefy' the windows experience. In other words have more control over each element. Create a more consistent experience.
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How can that be. Apple’s updates are not forced. You can choose how updates are dealt. Off, notifications and choose what to install, download and install later or auto update. So that means it is Microsoft that is dumbing it down.

Yet they call Windows a power user platform. :rolleyes:
 
V F said:
How can that be. Apple’s updates are not forced. You can choose how updates are dealt. Off, notifications and choose what to install, download and install later or auto update. So that means it is Microsoft that is dumbing it down.

Yet they call Windows a power user platform. :rolleyes:
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Its funny how one of the defences for the way Windows 10 does it is that Mac OS or Android, etc. does it that way but in pretty much every case even though its the default approach they still give you the advanced options to take full control of updates without silly tinkering.

This is getting a bit too off topic now though heh.
 
Rroff said:
Its funny how one of the defences for the way Windows 10 does it is that Mac OS or Android, etc. does it that way but in pretty much every case even though its the default approach they still give you the advanced options to take full control of updates without silly tinkering.

This is getting a bit too off topic now though heh.
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They’re still forcing driver installs which they can get lost!
 
V F said:
How can that be. Apple’s updates are not forced. You can choose how updates are dealt. Off, notifications and choose what to install, download and install later or auto update. So that means it is Microsoft that is dumbing it down.

Yet they call Windows a power user platform. :rolleyes:
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Well for one they switched to a more OSX update schedule. We now get two mini updates a year much like OSX has been for years.

The whole apps for Windows and unifying the desktop OS with the phone OS is a straight copy of the Apple strategy.
 
Got this small issue which is really annoying. For whatever reason, my GPU's are being read backwards. Not a massive issue in the grand scheme of thing's but as a result everything like MSI AB, HWINFO etc all read GPU 1 as 3 and vice versa, but looks bizzare when looking at monitoring tools, as until recently it was being read as expected. Only when I was seeing bizzare clock readouts did I see it all flipped about. Is this something any ones else has seen with 2+ GPU's configs, any way to change it?

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I'm really annoyed with Gears of War 4. The game will randomly freeze during cut scenes. Googling it reveals its a known issue with newer Nvidia drivers which neither MS or Nvidia seem to care about resolving.
 
opethdisciple said:
I'm really annoyed with Gears of War 4. The game will randomly freeze during cut scenes. Googling it reveals its a known issue with newer Nvidia drivers which neither MS or Nvidia seem to care about resolving.
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One of the Microsoft updates stopped the crashing for me and now I use 388.31 problem free. It was an update to fix Forza crashes on high performance laptops or something.

Now I simply won't update unless I have a problem and the new driver addresses it.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Anyone tried 388.71 yet?
How does it seem, is it a good driver or a bad one? (i.e. is this one we're likely to roll back to or from?)
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every driver is good..

not had one problem since owning a 970 a few years ago and now owning a 1080ti and i update every driver in release day via DDU.. never thru geforce experience or installing straight ontop which i know people do!

ive never had a "bad" driver.. its more user error then anything else tbh!
 
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