Poll: *** The official 2020 MacBook Air/13" MacBook Pro thread (it has the M1 chip and everything!) ***

What 2020 Apple Silicon notebook have you ordered?

  • MacBook Air

    Votes: 72 70.6%
  • 13" MacBook Pro

    Votes: 30 29.4%

  • Total voters
    102
What makes an Apple refurb?
Something someone has bought and then returned.

Damaged or faulty or can it be something simple like an unwanted but opened box?
Any of those.

Also I’m guessing you couldn’t tell the difference between a refurb and brand new?
You really can't - I've had some refurbished products and the only difference is that the box says refurb on it. If anything, the condition of a refurb is pretty much guaranteed to be perfect because it's not rolled off a production line and gone into a box automatically but it's been through the hands of a real person.

I've had a couple of iPad refubs and the MacBook I bought a few years ago was a refurb. It had a handful of cycles on the battery as opposed to zero but physically it was perfect. I don't know if it still happens but I remember hearing reports that it wasn't unknown for a machine to arrive and be higher spec than was advertised on the refurb site.
 
Small, lightweight laptop with a full travel tactile keyboard, touchbar, touchID, 16gb ram, as fast a processor as possible in a lot of tasks until you are spending crazy money or doing things it doesn't excel at or run natively, amazing battery life even when taxing the processor and all for about £1600.
And in the case of the MBA, doing all that totally silently while barely getting warm to the touch.
 
My MB dropped to 91% relatively quickly and sat there on 91% for the best part of two years. I didn't notice any difference in performance from when it was brand new until the day I sold it.
 
Im up to 22 charge cycles on my MBA and the battery health has dropped to 98%. I use it on battery all the time, rarely charge fully to 100% (normally I just let it go to 80% and then when it automatically pauses, I use it from there rather than getting it to 100) and I normally charge when it gets to c.20%. How does this compare with what you guys/gals are seeing?

I don't use my M1 MBA on the battery very often and I noticed yesterday that it wasn't charging above 85% (according to Coconut battery). This morning I looked a bit further as I thought this might be down to the optimised charging.

Yes.. It's exactly that.

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I like the fact that it says 'Rarely used on battery'. It's not wrong!

I'm going to give it a few full discharge/charge cycles, just for the hell of it.
 
but I’ll admit I’m a bit worried that it’s dropping at this rate.
I can only refer you to the reply I gave some days ago... I think you'll be fine but of course, keep a watch on it.

My MB dropped to 91% relatively quickly and sat there on 91% for the best part of two years. I didn't notice any difference in performance from when it was brand new until the day I sold it.
 
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