I recommend 5800X.
If you can live with high temperatures and adjust your cooling not to go full rpm at every move.
It is measurably faster, and its price came down a lot since launch.
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If you can live with high temperatures and adjust your cooling not to go full rpm at every move.
It is measurably faster, and its price came down a lot since launch.
Soldato
I found adjusting PPT down to 120 or less had a considerable reduction on temps. On the Wraith Prism cooler I was able to bring it down to 79 from 90+ running R23 so I would say if you're still getting the expected performance then it's all good. I also noticed around a 100 Mhz reduction on multicore following reducing PPT so your experience is in line with own, if that provides you with any reassurance.
Associate
I too made a similar upgrade just a few days ago. Went from 1600x + Freezer33, C6H, 2x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200Mhz CL16 to 5600x + Dark Rock 4, Asus Strix B550-F Gaming, 2x8Gb G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4000Mhz CL18. The diference is bigger than i suspected, my system is more responsive, tje boot-up is much faster, and the 5600x boosts like crazy. I didn't have much time so far, but i managed to get 4850Mhz for SC and 4700 for ML boost. My Cinebench R23 scores are 1595 SC and 11698 MC, for now at least.
Soldato
Upgraded to a 5600X recently and noticed idle temp spikes randomly jumping up and down, is this normal as i'm running air cooled and well ventilated?
yes
Zen 3 are very quick to boost at any small background task. Some RGB solftware and game libraries (cough-Epic-cough) are notorious for keeping Zen3 from idling.
Caporegime
Does you BIOS have a fan curve thing? set the fans to idle until the CPU get to about 60 or 65c, that way you wont get this annoying ramping up and down of the fans.
Soldato
Perfect, thanks for the update.
Not the fans? Talking about random temp spikes? PC is literally whisper quiet. Just curious about the temps.
Caporegime
Ah ok, usually that's accompanied with fans wiring up and down, which is annoying and people regularly complain about that, the temperature spikes are completely normal, even when apparently idle something is always making requests of the CPU from the background, when that happens the CPU wakes up from idling straight in to a sprint and just as quickly goes back to sleep again. as @alec said stuff like RGB software can exaggerate this behaviour as that type software tends to make a lot of random requests of the CPU.
Soldato
Thanks for the update, I pretty much stay away from any bloatware if i can help it.
The only RGB in my system is on my RAM, keyboard and mouse which are driver-less etc.
Caporegime
Is this software from those vendors? its all bloatware
but now that you know why you seem quite happy so i wouldn't worry about it.
Replaced my Wraith Prism with a Noctua Black 12s.
5800x curve opt -18, 4850 single, 4650 all cores
Idles 30-35
Single Core and Gaming 55-60 (down from 70-75)
All core start at 70 slowly creeps up to 80 (slight improvement here)
Noise reduced.
5800x curve opt -18, 4850 single, 4650 all cores
Idles 30-35
Single Core and Gaming 55-60 (down from 70-75)
All core start at 70 slowly creeps up to 80 (slight improvement here)
Noise reduced.
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Soldato
Following this
Soldato
Does the 5600x run hot like the 5800x?
Soldato
Can someone lay some curve optimiser knowledge on me?
with a goal of not over locking and reducing temps should I set the pco only to say -10 all cores?
with a goal of not over locking and reducing temps should I set the pco only to say -10 all cores?
Caporegime
No.
Its easy to do and yes it will reduce temps, set PBO to advanced, that will open the curve optimiser, set symbol to negative, set value 10, stress test, keep setting a higher value until its not stable, 12, 14....
Soldato
Cheers dude. I think to be honest I might go to a 5600x at this point
Caporegime
Use Ryzen Master and undervolt it (and underclock a little if needed), your temps will drop 10c or so without losing tangible performance. I have mine set at 4.5ghz at 1.2v and I have a small drop in stock single core performance but the same multi-threaded performance and my system is a lot quieter and cooler.