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*** The Official Alder Lake owners thread ***

Gondar said:
https://wccftech.com/spectre-v2-vul...intel-alder-lake-arm-cpus-amd-chips-unharmed/
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Why are AMD chips unharmed? More secure, or just undiscovered? Surprised Arm and Intel are affected.

Anyway, I wanted to share this article to see what it got right, and what was relevant today.

https://www.howtogeek.com/316572/why-do-cpu-cores-all-have-the-same-speed-instead-of-different-ones/

Thought experiment about Intel's Kaby Lake (so I presume it's 5 years ago) doing a big.little design with Atom cores, and how it played out. If Windows on Arm had a scheduler that took advantage of big.little, it's no surprise that they nixed it for W11.
 
Probs because Realtek created the driver and GB just repackaged them into an installer :D

Had no issues since rolling back that BIOS from before so not gonna touch any new BIOS from now on unless absolutely necessary lol.
 
Could be right there, similar to when they release any updated sound drivers.

The AL platform, in my usage, is proving itself just as stable as my previous Z390 setup. So in that respect, stability coupled with a nice performance uplift, all is good.
 
Definitely, it's nice too that those remaining games that didn't like E-Cores have all been patched, Adobe patched up Photoshop as well after I posted a thread in the Adobe forums and it was kinda nice seeing how they right away got working o the problem and how the rest of the userbase input their feedback too.

All in all, a brilliant platform.
 
Vimes said:
Could be right there, similar to when they release any updated sound drivers.

The AL platform, in my usage, is proving itself just as stable as my previous Z390 setup. So in that respect, stability coupled with a nice performance uplift, all is good.
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Yeap seeing the same thing here. I've got two systems currently, 11900k/Maximus XIII Hero setup in my VR rig and the 12900k/Maximus Z690 Hero as per my sig in my main rig. Both have been 100% stable from day one of release, no issues, no bugs, nada.
 
For pretty much 99.99% of users if not more the 12900k is the best CPU at the moment. I wasn't sure what to make of the big little approach, but have been pleasantly surprised by the efficieny, both temps and power draw are fantastic even under air. I'm also confident that any noticable performance hit from security patches would end up in a product recall.

I'd post a pic, but I went for the **** off RGB options within an opaque black Fractal Torrent stuffed under the desk.
 
Joining the club with the 12700KF, was around 40$ less than K and I have a discrete GPU lying around in case something happens. Also got a Dying Light 2 code as part of a promo. Should be a nice upgrade after 7 years on a 4790k:p

Grabbed a MSI Z690-A WiFi, 32GB of Crucial Ballistix, LF II 280 A-RGB for cooling and a Samaung 980 Pro 500GB for the system drive, all at a very decent price.

Also treated myself to a new case, Phanteks Eclipse white d-rgb. I can smell some nice music making and gaming:D
 
12700f what is the turbo all core for this and can you lock all cores on it ? not bothered about overclocking it just want all cores at heighest same speed.
 
All p-core on 12700 is 4.7, I think. On a good board, it should be able to sustain PL2 indefinitely since PL1=PL2 for Alder Lake. Some boards are set to PL2 by default and will run the chip at max under load. That obviously depends on temps etc.

Not sure what settings are available for locked chips, I got the K just for unlocked VCCSA and more control but you should easily be able to increase the power limit in bios.

12700 is a great CPU paired with a solid B660 board.
 
I'm currently on a 6700k and looking to jump to Alder Lake. I was all set for jumping to a 5900/5950x setup but it doesn't seem worth buying into AM4, especially when I keep things for 5/6 years.

I have a 3080 and a 38" ultrawide so want to get the most out of that (although things run pretty well tbh!) but I also dabble in 3D rendering at times so wouldn't mind the most cores for the money.

Looking at a 12900K but not liking the DDR4/DDR5 choice. What are people leaning to? I like the idea of not needing to OC (at least for now anyway) and don't mind spending a little bit more for longevity. Is there a go-to setup or things coming to hold out for?
 



Saw a couple of YouTube reviews on the Soyo B660M, and it was meant to be alright. Hadn't heard the Soyo name since Socket A! 550 rmb here, so 65 quid I guess. At that price I figured I'd go an upgrade over my Z390M ITX/AC and i5 8400.
Tray 12400 and a £20 cooler and the package was complete.

It's definitely a solid upgrade from what I had. I wouldn't normally buy a motherboard this cheap, but I'm pleasantly surprised with it.
I just use this for gaming and web browsing, so it'd be a waste to go for a higher end CPU.

This cooler is LGA1700 compatible, which is why I bought it. I expected it to be terrible for that price, but the 12400 is not a hot CPU at all. Even in my small case, it's not breaking a sweat.

Honestly, even with AMD's too late announcement, I'd still have went for Alder Lake. The value at the low end is insane.
 
Dup said:
I'm currently on a 6700k and looking to jump to Alder Lake. I was all set for jumping to a 5900/5950x setup but it doesn't seem worth buying into AM4, especially when I keep things for 5/6 years.

I have a 3080 and a 38" ultrawide so want to get the most out of that (although things run pretty well tbh!) but I also dabble in 3D rendering at times so wouldn't mind the most cores for the money.

Looking at a 12900K but not liking the DDR4/DDR5 choice. What are people leaning to? I like the idea of not needing to OC (at least for now anyway) and don't mind spending a little bit more for longevity. Is there a go-to setup or things coming to hold out for?
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It's not really a great time to upgrade and I definitely wouldn't drop money either on a 12900k or ddr5 for that matter, because your CPU should be enough to tide you over till Meteor Lake.

However if you feel you want something better you can go two ways: as above, Alder Lake has insane value at the low end, so a 12400, which is a bloody damn fast 6-core beast, with a solid b660 board is going to serve you really well. The second option if you want more grunt for productivity: grab a ddr4 z690 board of your choice, drop in a 12700k(f) and ride it to the ground for as long as possible. Only switch platforms when ddr5 becomes commonplace and intel moves to a new node. Should be enough grunt to skip even Meteor Lake. That's what I'm planning to do, switched from 4790k.

Don't overspend on the fancier z690 boards, ridiculously overpriced. MSI Z690A is the best value, also Gigabyte Gaming X but I've heard bad things about bios and memory compatibility. Asus TUF or MSI Tomahawk if you want something better looking and can get a good price. Z690A is not exactly a looker, mine also somehow has Foxconn ILM which is allegedly worse than Lotes, doesn't instill me with confidence given the bending issue happening on some boards. Thankfully, I'm on AIO now and mine has a hefty metal backplate which I installed before socketing the CPU, that allegedly helps.

Z690 gives you some wiggle room for OC if you want but bear in mind those chips are clocked pretty damn high and you won't get that much out of them, except much more heat. Personally, in your case I'd go with a good quality b660 and a 12700 non-k since you're not to fussed about OC, you'll save some money, get very close performance and still have 8 p-cores for productivity.
 
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