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I thought I'll just drop this here. Another dozen or so reviews in the work.
nice link, but the results seem to be varying massively. is resolution the main factor here is or is it a combination of things?
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*** The Official ATI Radeon HD 6970 & 6950 Reviews, Discussion and Overclocking Thread ***
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nice link, but the results seem to be varying massively. is resolution the main factor here is or is it a combination of things?
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Depends if you think an average of a 15% increase in performance is worth it or not.
I personally wouldn't.
If you're struggling for fps then go crossfired 5870's if you can, shop around for a sub-£400 580 or wait for the 6990 in the new year.
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From the reviews I've read, nV have the fastest single GPU card, but it costs more and uses more power. The 6950 seems to be the one which will sell the most with decent performance and the best price. 6970 looks to sit between the two 5** nV cards. If pushed to give a result I'd say honours even, both manufacturers' new products have shifted more sideways than up.
Most review sites bench at 1920x1200 with 4xAA and 16xAF but some decide to turn off a few settings here and there. These reviews are easily accessible if you want to know the details
With that said, some review sites aren't really reliable with only some results varying from one review to another. Most don't even inform that they just copy the results from their previous reviews using different drivers. That much for fair comparison
Actually it's more like 18-20%, we've yet to see how well AMD can optimise their drivers for 6900s. And believe me, they did a fairly decent job in the past few months, my HD5850 gained a handful of gains in various games.
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dx 11 performance is improved vastly though and that's a big plus point. there isn't that much point looking at dx9 and dx10 games, coz for those the min FPS is still perfectly playable.
However the number of AAA dx11 titles are limited
However the number of AAA dx11 titles are limited
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Anandtech is, in my mind, the Granddaddy of tech review sites. I've found them peerless in consistency, detail and the quality of their writing too.
Everywhere else feels a little sordid, cheap and amateurish by comparison.
Everywhere else feels a little sordid, cheap and amateurish by comparison.
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Overall my view of the 'new' tech - both 6970/6950 and 580/570 is 'underwhelming'.
I game at 1920 x 1200 and do not expect to be rushing to swap my 470 in the near future.
I game at 1920 x 1200 and do not expect to be rushing to swap my 470 in the near future.
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Totally agree with you. The guys there really work hard at being as accurate and unbiased as they humanly can be. In truth that fearless unbiased writing does occasionally upset the odd vendor.
But for my money there is not a tech site that gives as much depth and technical information as those guys do. I am still blown away by the last DDR3 ram article that Kris and Raja wrote, and not to forget the seminal work that Anand himself has done on SSD's. I do hope that they update the data with the 10.12 drivers, but I guess if they where to keep updating data for all graphic cards with each new set of drivers that the vendors release they will need twice the number of staff than what they all ready have.
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Hiya,
They are horrid graphs! They are in order of the legend. Translating the text says that in 2 way crossfire the scaling is great, about 100% but once you go to 3 or 4 cards then performance drops. They hope AMD can fix it in future drivers...
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6970 ordered, sideways move from a pair of palit 460's 2GB's, used for 3 screen's
damn my eyes/brain for noticing microstutter.
damn my eyes/brain for noticing microstutter.
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Totally agree with you. The guys there really work hard at being as accurate and unbiased as they humanly can be. In truth that fearless unbiased writing does occasionally upset the odd vendor.
They've always been the site I go to first, Raja and Bingo13 are on XS from time to time. I just wish they'd included 570SLI within this latest review, it is, after all, the closest competing setup to 6970 Crossfire.
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HardOCP in that spreadsheet appear to be the odd one's out. I don't think it's exactly fair to test cards at such a high resolution and take those results as the average. Results for 1600 to 1920 res should be being used ideally as those are likely the more common res for people buying these particular cards. The HardOCP results seem to favour the ATI cards (or am I going mad?)
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OCP are AMD biased.
Just received and installed my HIS 6970 and I have a question for those of you who also have one. What are your 2D frequencies? seems to me that the well known Catalyst "bug" is preventing my card to use the proper 2D frequencies (250/150) and is instead stuck with 500/1375
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Pretty telling when you put it all in one spreadsheet!
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Just received and installed my HIS 6970 and I have a question for those of you who also have one. What are your 2D frequencies? seems to me that the well known Catalyst "bug" is preventing my card to use the proper 2D frequencies (250/150) and is instead stuck with 500/1375
That's the result of the bug, but if it's well known, what's the cause? Are you running more than one monitor or something?