*****The Official Canon 5DMK3 Thread*****

Rojin said:
The "all bodies" is referring to all Canon bodies... Canon have just never had decent galleries to show off their gear, I don't know why but there you go! :D

Yeah, they seem keen to say the 1DX is a stop better so that's still their top of the line offering. Although I've read so much the last couple of days that might not actually be a line from Canon!
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No, I agree that both Canon and Nikon are normally pretty bad at putting low quality samples in their galleries. The have even been known to outsource their advertising to people who used Sony bodies to generate marketing images.:D


We do have to wait for official reviews to draw final judgement but I would say that the current samples should make one very cautious about pre-ordering.

The question on why Canon just didn't use the 18MP sensor from the 1DX sticks in my mind. The only answer I currently have is to purposely cripple performance and have a lower production cost sensor. Hopefully I am wrong but I just don't understand Canons design choices here.
 
Only the 56200 and 26100 are remotely bad and I bet the 26100 is easily recovered.

It's not til I see FF sensor shots like that you realize how woeful 40/50/7D etc are past 1600 iso.

I will never be able to justify a 5d3 but I think it's made my mind up to pick up a 5D2 from an upgrader. :D
 
Hype and fanboy rantings aside ;) I'm more concerned at the huge price increases for newer products from Canon. I know the economy is pants at the moment, and I know they suffered last year because of the tsunami, but why is everything being released as VERY high prices? I know they'll reduce over 6 months, as normal, but even then it's not going to be close to previous pricing.

It makes me wonder if they're trying to force people to buy the cheaper/entry level stuff unless they have an actual business need for the products. I'm really disappointed in these huge price jumps, as one lens and the camera, with a flash will set you back £7k. Do they even want people to buy their products? If anything, the third party companies like Tamron and Sigma will be doing a roaring trade in lenses if they nail the quality on similar lenses, etc.

I've spent all day mulling over the 5DmkIII as I still want one. Today I gave away my 30D, battery grip, 70-300 and nifty fifty, with 2 cards and boxes, so I want my 60D to be my backup :D In all seriousness though, for someone like me working full time, with no debts, I'd still have to save extremely hard for the best part of a year, just so I've got a decent deposit on a finance agreement, so I'm not paying for something for 3 years!
 
ElDude said:
Hype and fanboy rantings aside ;) I'm more concerned at the huge price increases for newer products from Canon. I know the economy is pants at the moment, and I know they suffered last year because of the tsunami, but why is everything being released as VERY high prices? I know they'll reduce over 6 months, as normal, but even then it's not going to be close to previous pricing.

It makes me wonder if they're trying to force people to buy the cheaper/entry level stuff unless they have an actual business need for the products. I'm really disappointed in these huge price jumps, as one lens and the camera, with a flash will set you back £7k. Do they even want people to buy their products? If anything, the third party companies like Tamron and Sigma will be doing a roaring trade in lenses if they nail the quality on similar lenses, etc.

I've spent all day mulling over the 5DmkIII as I still want one. Today I gave away my 30D, battery grip, 70-300 and nifty fifty, with 2 cards and boxes, so I want my 60D to be my backup :D In all seriousness though, for someone like me working full time, with no debts, I'd still have to save extremely hard for the best part of a year, just so I've got a decent deposit on a finance agreement, so I'm not paying for something for 3 years!
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One of the main differences is exchange rates, teh cameras cost similar amounts in Japan but the GBP has dropped a lot against the Yen (as has the USD) so you can expect to pay more.
 
Canon's own price point has always been very high though and isn't really a true reflection of the price people will pay for the item over it's lifetime.

Canon has announced the mk3 at £2999, so retailers naturally are going to sell it for that, because it's in limited supply and there are people more than willing to pay that.

The retailers are only going to start knocking the price down once the pre-order/early adopter crowd is finished, also when they have a good amount of stock in their stores. It's at that stage that they will slowly begin to drop the price as they try and outdo each other, because they will find they can no longer shift them at £2999.

If I owned a camera shop, I'd do the same.

It is annoying having waited a long time for the mk3, only to now have to wait a bit longer for it to be a bit more affordable.
 
D.P. said:
The question on why Canon just didn't use the 18MP sensor from the 1DX sticks in my mind. The only answer I currently have is to purposely cripple performance and have a lower production cost sensor. Hopefully I am wrong but I just don't understand Canons design choices here.
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.. its because Canon have made the 5D3 with videographers heavily in mind. the 22.3 megapixels, downsamples to 1080p resolution perfectly..
 
ravl585 said:
Alamby!!! <3

That's at 25600 iso, and looks incredible.

Who ever really needs to go into 100% crops anyway?

People need to stop pixel peeping.
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The trouble seem to be that this aggressive smudging seems to be being applied at lower ISO's as well. Well defined details seem to fair ok, but fine detail even at only 6400 get's obliterated, which isn't good for landscapers or portrait photographers...
Images seem very comparable to the 7D from what I have seen so far, hopefully this is just some funky jpg processing and raws will be better.

ISO 200

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/files/education/technical/inside_canon_eos_5d_mark_iii/02_cinc_big.jpg
 
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Nexus said:
You would save a little over the UK price, but not a significant amount.

Canon warranty is only valid in the country of purchase. Also depending on the charger they've used it might require a power adapter to use in the UK, the one supplied with the 350D I bought in Canada required me to do so.
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If you're looking at £2200 and you don't pay VAT on entry then you will save a significant amount. US sales tax is only about 5% (state dependent), so you're looking at £110 tac, still £700 cheaper, Even with VAT on top of the sales tax* You're still going to be saving around £250.

The Adaptor really isn't an issue unless newer canon camera chargers don't use the standard figure 8 connection. Just use a basic cord and plug it in to the charger.

The big issue is the warranty, lack of worldwide warranty means if things go wrong it starts to get expensive...


*And I think you can get a tax rebate at the airport when you leave the US.

EDIT: Apparently not - re rebate
 
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ISO aside I find most disappointing is the IQ from the canon samples. The shot of woman in red is simply terrible. At ISO 100 f16 you would expect super sharp result but it is very soft.
 
Amp34 said:
If you're looking at £2200 and you don't pay VAT on entry then you will save a significant amount. US sales tax is only about 5% (state dependent), so you're looking at £110 tac, still £700 cheaper, Even with VAT on top of the sales tax* You're still going to be saving around £250.

The Adaptor really isn't an issue unless newer canon camera chargers don't use the standard figure 8 connection. Just use a basic cord and plug it in to the charger.

The big issue is the warranty, lack of worldwide warranty means if things go wrong it starts to get expensive...


*And I think you can get a tax rebate at the airport when you leave the US.
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u wont get done by customs if u use the camera and put it in your hand carry
 
Amp34 said:
If you're looking at £2200 and you don't pay VAT on entry then you will save a significant amount. US sales tax is only about 5% (state dependent), so you're looking at £110 tac, still £700 cheaper, Even with VAT on top of the sales tax* You're still going to be saving around £250.

The Adaptor really isn't an issue unless newer canon camera chargers don't use the standard figure 8 connection. Just use a basic cord and plug it in to the charger.

The big issue is the warranty, lack of worldwide warranty means if things go wrong it starts to get expensive...


*And I think you can get a tax rebate at the airport when you leave the US.

EDIT: Apparently not - re rebate
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Given that what originally brought this discussion on was a ticket to Florida, I'd make the saving for that state, compared to the UK price to be roughly £432.

It's still an expensive camera and I think for that £400 I'd rather have a warranty, especially for a brand new product.

I think most of the Canon chargers for the Pro/Semi-Pro level do use a figure 8 and a battery housing charger. I simply referenced the fact that back with the 350D, the North American wall plug was built into it. I've not seen any box contents for the mk3, but presumably it will be the same as the mk2.
 
jonneymendoza said:
u wont get done by customs if u use the camera and put it in your hand carry
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Chances are you unlikely to be stopped by customs as it is. But if you really wanted to make it look like you had used it, you would need to bin the box, warranty certificate and receipt.

Believe me, when they do stop and search you they will go through everything and find and check every receipt that you have.

If you did the above, you would have even less of a warranty than you did before.
 
The DSLR bubble has to burst soon - it's the only camera market that is still increasing in cost.
Photography should be getting cheaper and it's certainly what clients are demanding now. Even print and media staff photog's are loosing out with outsourcing to the big agencies now.

Hopefully someone will launch a full frame 'budget' camera v.soon which will trigger massive price reductions across the range.
 
nolimit said:
ISO aside I find most disappointing is the IQ from the canon samples. The shot of woman in red is simply terrible. At ISO 100 f16 you would expect super sharp result but it is very soft.
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Canon's samples are never anything to go by.
 
SDK^ said:
The DSLR bubble has to burst soon - it's the only camera market that is still increasing in cost.
Photography should be getting cheaper and it's certainly what clients are demanding now. Even print and media staff photog's are loosing out with outsourcing to the big agencies now.

Hopefully someone will launch a full frame 'budget' camera v.soon which will trigger massive price reductions across the range.
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I very much doubt that, if anything this year will see more sales than ever. With the launch of 4 new top end bodies the year of the Olympics and Euro Finals, the bubble will not be bursting soon.
 
Phate said:
Canon's samples are never anything to go by.
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Why the hell is that, are they hiring the most incompetent photographers they can find?

Doesn't look like they are, considering the quality of the photography I'v seen, just that the quality of the files looks disappointing, even at settings where is doesn't matter who is pressing the shutter.

The below picture from the exif looks like it was a raw and has been processed in DPP, and even with what looks like obvious sharpening in post the image quality doesn't look great, although the actual image is of course.

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/files/education/technical/inside_canon_eos_5d_mark_iii/12_cinc_big.jpg
 
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