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.Lethal · 3 Feb 2016 at 13:28

Porkie said:
I am in two minds about augmenting gear with extra stats at the moment. I love the general idea, but it does seem to be a serious time commitment to do it. I am also debating at what level I should augment at. At first I was thinking level 50 gems, and then if I want I can upgrade with a second set at a higher level, but when I got 6 gems to 50 I started thinking that I am not sure I can be bothered to go through this again, so maybe just level them to around 70 and leave it there.

It is also a bit if an issue if you want to play more than one spec / class, got to augment a whole new set of gear. Was thinking about trying a Thorns Crusader, but am unsure I want to go through the whole augmenting process again.

I have been thinking a lot about this. I decided I won't go to 70 as it would mean a lot more time to reach it than 60. I originally thought of 50 as a ideal spot to power level gems but once the season started its easy to farm a rift 70 in moderate time allowing a guaranteed 60 upgrade before each chance diminishes. The next thing to decide is which do you play most solo or group. If solo then which barb build do you play/enjoy most Raekor/IK or Leap? Also ask yourself do you have enough ancient items to start augmenting I'm still deciding myself but most probably will be leap because (tbf) in this clan group progression doesn't happen.

Brok said:
It is a complete time sink that's for sure, it's a shame it's more efficient to level them by speed running grifts that are trivial rather than continuing to push higher grifts. If you could apply some factor to the difference between gem current level and grift level to give more upgrade chances (eg a 70 grift gives 8 chances on a level 1 gem or something) it would give more choices on how to level them up.

This is exactly what I think.

Porkie · 3 Feb 2016 at 13:51

.Lethal said:
I have been thinking a lot about this. I decided I won't go to 70 as it would mean a lot more time to reach it than 60. I originally thought of 50 as a ideal spot to power level gems but once the season started its easy to farm a rift 70 in moderate time allowing a guaranteed 60 upgrade before each chance diminishes. The next thing to decide is which do you play most solo or group. If solo then which barb build do you play/enjoy most Raekor/IK or Leap? Also ask yourself do you have enough ancient items to start augmenting I'm still deciding myself but most probably will be leap because (tbf) in this clan group progression doesn't happen.

This is exactly what I think.

I will be augmenting IK/Raekor. I love the charge playstyle, not so much the leapquake style. I do have a globe barb as well if anyone ever wants to run some group GRs.

Brok · 3 Feb 2016 at 13:58

Chance to upgrade =floor( 3+empowered+((griftlevel-gemlevel)/15))

This gives a sliding chance to upgrade that has eroded to 3(or 4 if empowered) by the time the difference between grift and gem levels is 15. It gives 7 chances on a level 1 gem at grift 70.

Yes it's a slow day at work

FlamBango · 3 Feb 2016 at 17:05

help me out here with gemming a weapon.

I have an effect from Kanai's box that on a chance gives me 1000% thorns

So , should i put a gem in the weapon that adds 38000 thorns or a gem giving 130% crit damage? It sounds like the thorns is the way to go but im unsure how often it would fire off.

Kyo · 3 Feb 2016 at 19:53

FlamBango said:
help me out here with gemming a weapon.

I have an effect from Kanai's box that on a chance gives me 1000% thorns

So , should i put a gem in the weapon that adds 38000 thorns or a gem giving 130% crit damage? It sounds like the thorns is the way to go but im unsure how often it would fire off.

Are you playing a crusader? And are using a thorns build. If so then thorns is the way to go from what I have seen. Look at the guide a few post up.

FlamBango · 3 Feb 2016 at 20:00

nope, barbarian.

Leg · 3 Feb 2016 at 21:52

FlamBango said:
nope, barbarian.

You will want the crit damage.

Ideally you will want to use something else in the cube as the potential for thorns damage on a barb isn't very high.

ED209 · 3 Feb 2016 at 22:00

whats the best legendary gems for a crusader? got the thorns one up ro level 30, whats the max level on the gems?

Digipact · 3 Feb 2016 at 22:20

ED209 said:
whats the best legendary gems for a crusader? got the thorns one up ro level 30, whats the max level on the gems?

Most of them don't have a max level, only gems like gogok of swiftness and a few others have a max level and it's at 50.

Bane of the trapped and gogok of swiftness are the two other gems I'm using on my thorns sader atm. I've cleared a 12min solo GR63 and I'm only paragon 400ish.

ED209 · 3 Feb 2016 at 22:50

Digipact said:
Most of them don't have a max level, only gems like gogok of swiftness and a few others have a max level and it's at 50.

Bane of the trapped and gogok of swiftness are the two other gems I'm using on my thorns sader atm. I've cleared a 12min solo GR63 and I'm only paragon 400ish.

just wanted the video above and re done my paragon and got the rings\amulet as well but 2 of them don't have sockets. got my thorns one is now.

need to get better gear but got to farm for it so just takes time I guess

UltraDad · 4 Feb 2016 at 20:50

I am thinking of lvling a witch doctor. As i am rifting and grifting a lot now that i have my main gems at lvl60 i was gonna level up a Gem of Ease to 50 and pop it in Leorics crown to help speed up leveling or is there another item that i can make lvl1 that will help me get to 70 quick

.Lethal · 4 Feb 2016 at 20:55

UltraDad said:
I am thinking of lvling a witch doctor. As i am rifting and grifting a lot now that i have my main gems at lvl60 i was gonna level up a Gem of Ease to 50 and pop it in Leorics crown to help speed up leveling or is there another item that i can make lvl1 that will help me get to 70 quick

Ask someone in the clan to boost you takes 20 mins to get to 70.

HungryHippos · 5 Feb 2016 at 10:31

Anyone playing Globe Barb and wouldn't mind running with us on 75-80's sometime? seasonal of course.

We are support WD, support monk, twister wiz. Still learning the ways so it's OK if you are also, as long as you can survive in 75-80 OK

Porkie · 5 Feb 2016 at 11:58

HungryHippos said:
Anyone playing Globe Barb and wouldn't mind running with us on 75-80's sometime? seasonal of course.

We are support WD, support monk, twister wiz. Still learning the ways so it's OK if you are also, as long as you can survive in 75-80 OK

I have a globe barb that I have been working on. Would be happy to try and run some 75-80. I can survive 75 OK, not tried higher.

DinAlt · 5 Feb 2016 at 12:12

UltraDad said:
I am thinking of lvling a witch doctor. As i am rifting and grifting a lot now that i have my main gems at lvl60 i was gonna level up a Gem of Ease to 50 and pop it in Leorics crown to help speed up leveling or is there another item that i can make lvl1 that will help me get to 70 quick

Gem of ease and the cube recipe on a level 70 weapon biggest help there is.
Also Hellfire Amulets with a legendary gem - they have no level requirement
Just with those two you should be able to level at torment 2 or 3 Id guess
(you can level at t1 with just the hellfire amulet i could get to solo in 2 hours or so without pushing it)
Or yeah just get plevelled by someone in the guild - wont take more than a few minutes.

HungryHippos · 5 Feb 2016 at 12:17

Porkie said:
I have a globe barb that I have been working on. Would be happy to try and run some 75-80. I can survive 75 OK, not tried higher.

I'll add you Caphel, will be good to play again

We play most evenings for a bit!

DinAlt said:
Gem of ease and the cube recipe on a level 70 weapon biggest help there is.
Also Hellfire Amulets with a legendary gem - they have no level requirement
Just with those two you should be able to level at torment 2 or 3 Id guess
(you can level at t1 with just the hellfire amulet i could get to solo in 2 hours or so without pushing it)
Or yeah just get plevelled by someone in the guild - wont take more than a few minutes.

Power leveling is so much quicker, just gotta find someone willing to do it.

Kyo · 5 Feb 2016 at 22:58

UltraDad said:
I am thinking of lvling a witch doctor. As i am rifting and grifting a lot now that i have my main gems at lvl60 i was gonna level up a Gem of Ease to 50 and pop it in Leorics crown to help speed up leveling or is there another item that i can make lvl1 that will help me get to 70 quick

I can do T3 at level 1 with my scourage with a gem of ease. It may not be as fast as someone power levelling you but it still quick enough going it solo and it is sure way more fun

ED209 · 6 Feb 2016 at 07:48

I have been spending the last few nights doing rifts and grifts at T7 groups but I'm still not finding any new gear to replace what I have and if I do find better gear its not my set gear so don't use it.

does anyone have any other suggestions on ways to find better gear as ive not found any for awhile now and finding it hard to progress further to get better gear

BuzzLloydyear · 6 Feb 2016 at 11:00

ED209 said:
I have been spending the last few nights doing rifts and grifts at T7 groups but I'm still not finding any new gear to replace what I have and if I do find better gear its not my set gear so don't use it.

does anyone have any other suggestions on ways to find better gear as ive not found any for awhile now and finding it hard to progress further to get better gear

Just keep at it, you will encounter up's and downs, but eventually you will get upgrades. It only takes one really good upgrade to propel yourself to another level.

I am actually still using the first Compass Rose I had drop, not because it's good (because it's not), but because I have had terrible luck getting an upgrade on it. I reforged a Compass Rose 8 times (and I hate running bounties for the mats) and it almost never rolled with a proper damage boosting stat.

I know it will eventually come though and when it does, it will help me quite a lot.

ED209 · 6 Feb 2016 at 12:16

BuzzLloydyear said:
Just keep at it, you will encounter up's and downs, but eventually you will get upgrades. It only takes one really good upgrade to propel yourself to another level.

I am actually still using the first Compass Rose I had drop, not because it's good (because it's not), but because I have had terrible luck getting an upgrade on it. I reforged a Compass Rose 8 times (and I hate running bounties for the mats) and it almost never rolled with a proper damage boosting stat.

I know it will eventually come though and when it does, it will help me quite a lot.

i've got the same ring as well, using a less better one due to it having a slot and I can then use my legendary gem in it for a thorns increase of damage

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