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It's sad how many people accuse high level players of Botting. Sure some are. Not all.
1400 is actually seriously easy to get to especially now for those doing 95rifts
1400 is actually seriously easy to get to especially now for those doing 95rifts
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It seems that they are either using the DPS Wizard build and running 4 mans or the Support WD and running 4 mans.
Funny that they have Gem of Ease equipped on their weapons just to milk that additional couple of XP....
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You'll actually find that quite the majority of twitch streamers ie high profile, leaderboard topping players, are all botting. Blizzard do nothing about botting so there's just no risk in it anymore.
They updated Warden and two days later a new bot comes out that circumvents it.
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Yeah I know, there was the guy last season who left his twitch stream running while botting...
Shockingly he got banned.
They haven't proactively banned anyone for botting since S1; Most bannings since then have been due to exploits (Hellfire Passive), or due to reports of people botting / cheating etc rather than Warden actively banning people.
While it's a massively selling game, it's not earning Blizzard any money really any more, there have been plenty of bannings in WoW / hearthstone for Bots, but it's constantly earning blizzard money so they seem to care more about it.
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You've got to applaud Blizz for actually bothering to update the game on a semi-regular basis, but yeah beyond that they just don't care about cheats and people bypassing. Thing is, these cheats make money off it via their streams so i'm surprised Blizzard don't have a vested interest.
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I would assume that the update was co-incidental with a resolution for other Bots within either HearthStone or WoW which used the same processes, and as such the detection method didn't have to change to detect the D3 bots.
I don't know for sure, but I read a lot about the recent Warden update due to the fact that there were concerns about privacy issues in it reading other parts of the RAM other than the bits D3 was using, which is against EU laws.
There was a ban wave in China and people are now assuming one will come for NA and EU before the end of the season, it doesn't matter if the bot has been updated, warden when updated will have caught the majority as they will have still been running the older versions that were detectable at the time.
Unless they weren't on D3 at the time and didn't load the bot up till they knew it was safe then they'll have been flagged.
Unless they weren't on D3 at the time and didn't load the bot up till they knew it was safe then they'll have been flagged.
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The China servers are not run by Blizzard however, so it's not really conclusive.
Also from looking on one of the well known botting forums; the only people it's likely to have picked up are the ones who logged in within around a 15 / 20 minute window, as they shut down access to the bot following the warden update.
Also on that note, I'll be disappointed if using additional tools (such as TurboHUD) gets anyone banned who wasn't botting, since it's actually quite a useful tool, and contains several things which the D3 client should have inbuilt anyway; especially since similar 3rd party addons are allowed for their other games (WoW in particular).
Also from looking on one of the well known botting forums; the only people it's likely to have picked up are the ones who logged in within around a 15 / 20 minute window, as they shut down access to the bot following the warden update.
Also on that note, I'll be disappointed if using additional tools (such as TurboHUD) gets anyone banned who wasn't botting, since it's actually quite a useful tool, and contains several things which the D3 client should have inbuilt anyway; especially since similar 3rd party addons are allowed for their other games (WoW in particular).
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TurboHUD is as bannable as any imo, people who think it doesnt give an advantage are living on a different planet.
It has tons of useful features no doubt, stuff that would be great if they added to the game, but that doesnt take away from the advantage that it gives to thoise who use it (and justify it) against those who dont.
As far as the bans are concerned, accounts have already been flagged before the bots were shut down. They wer eflagged at the first warden update then flagged again at the 2nd. Turning off the toys wont keep people safe (hopefully).
From what ive seen the china bans were permabans for Rosbot and demonbuddy and 3 day suspensions for Thud along with leaderboard/paragon reset.
Are we to assume that means THUD is ok to use? no otherwise they wouldnt have suspended accounts. To me the THUD suspensions are more a warning to anyone wondering if it was a grey area.
Id love to see the wave hit NA/EU but blizz have a history of doing nothing in those realms.
I do wonder if the fact that there are micro transactions on the asian servers means they had to ban accounts as peoples cash is involved.
It has tons of useful features no doubt, stuff that would be great if they added to the game, but that doesnt take away from the advantage that it gives to thoise who use it (and justify it) against those who dont.
As far as the bans are concerned, accounts have already been flagged before the bots were shut down. They wer eflagged at the first warden update then flagged again at the 2nd. Turning off the toys wont keep people safe (hopefully).
From what ive seen the china bans were permabans for Rosbot and demonbuddy and 3 day suspensions for Thud along with leaderboard/paragon reset.
Are we to assume that means THUD is ok to use? no otherwise they wouldnt have suspended accounts. To me the THUD suspensions are more a warning to anyone wondering if it was a grey area.
Id love to see the wave hit NA/EU but blizz have a history of doing nothing in those realms.
I do wonder if the fact that there are micro transactions on the asian servers means they had to ban accounts as peoples cash is involved.
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I agree with TurboHUD in fact it was recommended to me once by a friend i looked at a video of a rift with it and instantly said hell no that looks way " OP "
I do think you are on to something with the micro transactions as they were a lot more active banning people whilst the auction house was around IIRC.
Still as i said above i do think a lot of people are legit players not everyone is a botter or exploiter. Some are no doubt gabby and the likes are absolutely terrible for it and they deserve nothing less than banning permanently. I got to paragon 1000 no problems in under 1200 hours and i know some people who are only paragon 800 yet have 3000 legit hours so i think a lot of it is down to play style/ability and how efficient people are. If i had 3000 hours i have no doubt i would also be paragon 1500+
Quick query
Playing Crusader LoN bomb build.
For my arms I swapped out my ancient set piece that has str vit, resist and thorns as secondary.
With ancient sanguinary vambraces. It has legendary power "Chance on being hit to deal 1000% thorns" it roll was not quite as good. str resist and armour , secondary had thorns roll as well. Toughness and overall dps about the same as well as physical skill %
Is this a good swap? Or is it better to stick with set piece as more vit means more health and better overall percentage in thorns from heart iof iron which is based on health?
Playing Crusader LoN bomb build.
For my arms I swapped out my ancient set piece that has str vit, resist and thorns as secondary.
With ancient sanguinary vambraces. It has legendary power "Chance on being hit to deal 1000% thorns" it roll was not quite as good. str resist and armour , secondary had thorns roll as well. Toughness and overall dps about the same as well as physical skill %
Is this a good swap? Or is it better to stick with set piece as more vit means more health and better overall percentage in thorns from heart iof iron which is based on health?
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Sanguinary Bracers are a good match for LoN bomb as there's no real essential piece of kit for Bracers for that spec. The proc can be pretty unreliable though and unless it hits in the physical phase of CoE, then 1000% thorns won't hit for much.
Personally, I use Nemesis bracers for the guaranteed elites on pylons.
Also, there's no reason to run any set pieces except LoN unless that's the only ancient you have. I'd still keep upgrading rares until you get Nemesis though.
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But you look at some of the addons for WoW (Such as the ones which locate rare mobs etc) and they will pick them up from half way across the map.
The cooldown timers and such should be implemented in the WoW interface (or at least allowable).
The biggest "advantage" is being able to see the rare / elite mobs on the mini map, which I believe should be in place anyway.
I'm not "defending" it's use as such, I just believe that the standard Diablo 3 interface could do with an overhaul; along with allowing specific mods in the same way that WoW does.
It's not a "bad" swap, but I'd still be looking for a set of Nemesis Bracers for that build.
and you're probably looking for:
Str
Vit
Physical Damage
Thorns
As your priorities.
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I still havent got ancients for my belt
My legs are ok but not the best. Got Gr 65 relatively straight forward. Just need to know why i got one shot at times 
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I'd be looking to get ancients in all slots first, so you want to start upgrading rare belts until you get an ancient version of your belt.
Then start looking for the BiS items that you require for the build.
Then start looking for the BiS items that you require for the build.
The thing with bots in D3 is that it doesn't harm anyone. In WoW their split ms reaction times slaughters people in arenas and their ability to farm gold/ buy auctions in seconds etc gives them an unfair advantage. In D3, who does it hurt? Leaderboards perhaps.
Plus yeah, money.
Plus yeah, money.
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The "always online" side of D3 is probably the worst part about it for me, I could play much more (train journeys, lunch breaks, hotel trips etc.) if it wasn't always online.
This requirement is what makes "botting" against the EULA; but also increases the desire for it, as it decreases the amount of time some people can play for.
The other thing which increases the desirability of botting is the impact that Paragon level has on your primary stats.
With the correct gear can you do GR 100 @ Paragon level 200? No.
Can you do it at Paragon level 2600; yes, probably.
You have 10,000 more primary stat than someone at level 200.
In theory with perfect gear and P800 I can hit 2,000,000 sheet damage.
Once all of the Augments have been made that rises to 3,400,000 Damage
With P2800 that increases to over 5,400,000
or almost 3 times the damage capacity.
If this was linked to something else (the level of your Legendary gems or similar...) then it would decrease the requirement for this mindless grinding.