The Official E4300 Overclocking Thread

Psycho Sonny · 22 Jan 2007 at 15:25

Minstadave said:
Great RAM, but an expensive way to go. There's some 2x2GB kits not far off now that may well be cheaper.

well i want best bang for buck and i dont want ram to limit me i dont understand these intel ratings

9x400 = 3600 MHz (100% Overclock!)

if i want to chieve this i need pc2-6400 to run fsb at 1:1 am i right? which is 800mhz

GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400UDC)

is this the better option then?

xsnv · 22 Jan 2007 at 16:14

3 pages in the official overclocking thread and no overclocks! Anyone actually got one yet?

megatron · 22 Jan 2007 at 18:32

xsnv said:
3 pages in the official overclocking thread and no overclocks! Anyone actually got one yet?

Its still on pre-order from OcUK last time I checked, so it would be less likely that anyone has tested 1 yet.

e4200 and Asus p5e-sli, looks ok as a combo for anyone not wanting to sli 8800 cards (u would need the Asus p5e32-sli, for 2x16pci-e slots not 2x 8 pci-e). Edit: Scratch that last line, works perfectly according to multiple reviews, only picked that up from the description of the 8800 on OcUK sales page. One thing that concerns me is the price of memory rated for 800Mhz DDR2 to run at 1:1 with the 400Mhz system bus.

There are 2 users who have got 400Mhz system bus with relative ease here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126791&page=6&highlight=P5N-E+SLI

With the cpu costing approx £110 and the board being £76 as Ive seen it advertised; memory costing £200-£300 seems to be the weak link here.

Am I missing something? Can u get 800Mhz rated memory for around £100 or would using slower memory with a divider hurt performance much?

Minstadave · 22 Jan 2007 at 18:34

megatron said:
e4200 and Asus p5e-sli, looks ok as a combo for anyone not wanting to sli 8800 cards (u would need the Asus p5e32-sli, for 2x16pci-e slots not 2x 8 pci-e). One thing that concerns me is the price of memory rated for 800Mhz DDR2 to run at 1:1 with the 400Mhz system bus.

There are 2 users who have got 400Mhz system bus with relative ease here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126791&page=6&highlight=P5N-E+SLI

With the cpu costing approx £110 and the board being £76 as Ive seen it advertised; memory costing £200-£300 seems to be the weak link here.

Am I missing something? Can u get 800Mhz rated memory for around £100 or would using slower memory with a divider hurt performance much?

You can pick up PC6400 2x1GB for around £150, thats 400Mhz, ideal for the E4300.

-Mike- · 22 Jan 2007 at 18:39

The cpus are still on pre order? Come on hades, buy one

Big.Wayne · 22 Jan 2007 at 18:49

xsnv said:
3 pages in the official overclocking thread and no overclocks! Anyone actually got one yet?

Lol I'm afraid easyrider is a bit keen, he likes to start official threads even before he's got the hardware! :rolleyes:

Would have been better to get the thing first, test it and then make a big splash with an opening post and results, oh well!

xsnv · 22 Jan 2007 at 19:52

mine should have come tomorrow but it's been delayed

Just hope intel didn't use inferior silicone on these. Remember all 6300's started out as potential x6800's. Not too sure about these as they've been designed from the ground up to be cheap!

Big.Wayne · 22 Jan 2007 at 19:56

xsnv said:
mine should have come tomorrow but it's been delayed

mine should have come today but it's been delayed

(City-Link had a temp driver today who couldn't find my house, grrr to think a van with my e4300 was within 500 yards of where I live, oh well should be with me tomorrow afternoon!).

xsnv said:
Just hope intel didn't use inferior silicone on these. Remember all 6300's started out as potential x6800's

yeah 6300's but not 4300's, there fresh silicon, still I can't quite figure INTEL's strategy with these new chips? (they appear toooo good!).

Minstadave · 22 Jan 2007 at 20:00

Ordered a Scythe Infinity, so guess I'll be getting E4300 pretty damn soon then. Just going to wait for the OcUK stock to come in to see the pricing here

easyrider · 22 Jan 2007 at 20:10

I have ordered two and they have been delayed.

xsnv · 22 Jan 2007 at 20:14

Minstadave said:
Ordered a Scythe Infinity, so guess I'll be getting E4300 pretty damn soon then. Just going to wait for the OcUK stock to come in to see the pricing here

Why an infinity and not a tuniq tower?

Minstadave · 22 Jan 2007 at 20:16

xsnv said:
Why an infinity and not a tuniq tower?

Cheap from the MM

xsnv · 22 Jan 2007 at 20:19

Minstadave said:
Cheap from the MM

Aha! lol. Lucky you..was just about to take it :mad:

Ordered a vaness-L instead...it's apparantly better than the tuniq

Psycho Sonny · 22 Jan 2007 at 20:33

easyrider said:
I have ordered two and they have been delayed.

is that 1 from 2 diff places or 2 from the same place and why have you ordered 2 are you planning on testing them to destruction?

easyrider · 22 Jan 2007 at 20:51

Psycho Sonny said:
is that 1 from 2 diff places or 2 from the same place and why have you ordered 2 are you planning on testing them to destruction?

Ones for me the other is for a build I'm doing for someone.

WJA96 · 22 Jan 2007 at 20:57

Psycho Sonny said:
well i want best bang for buck and i dont want ram to limit me i dont understand these intel ratings

9x400 = 3600 MHz (100% Overclock!)

if i want to chieve this i need pc2-6400 to run fsb at 1:1 am i right? which is 800mhz

GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400UDC)

is this the better option then?

Hi, you can buy good fast RAM if you like, and it won't hurt with the P5N-E SLi, but it's not necessary as it allows you to fix the RAM and CPU speeds independently.

Megatron said:
e4200 and Asus p5e-sli, looks ok as a combo for anyone not wanting to sli 8800 cards (u would need the Asus p5e32-sli, for 2x16pci-e slots not 2x 8 pci-e).

8800GTX and GTS both run fin ein SLI on the P5N-E SLI. The whole thing about 16x slots being required appears to be rubbish.

Megatron said:
One thing that concerns me is the price of memory rated for 800Mhz DDR2 to run at 1:1 with the 400Mhz system bus.

There are 2 users who have got 400Mhz system bus with relative ease here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...light=P5N-E+SLI

With the cpu costing approx £110 and the board being £76 as Ive seen it advertised; memory costing £200-£300 seems to be the weak link here.

Am I missing something? Can u get 800Mhz rated memory for around £100 or would using slower memory with a divider hurt performance much?

If you are going with the P5N-E SLi then you don't need to run the RAM on a fixed ratio to the CPU speed. You can fix them independently. So you can buy cheapo RAM, overclock that as far as it will go, then fix it at those settings and overclock the CPU as hard as you can without worrying about the RAM anymore. The P5N-E SLi is a 680i board that's had it's 16x slots cut back to 8x slots. Other than that (and a few esoteric Southbridge options), it's the same chipset.

easyrider · 22 Jan 2007 at 21:17

Well i'll be happy for 9 x 400 3.6 ghz under my water setup.

Just imaging if i can get 3.8ghz!

what a bargain!

Big.Wayne · 22 Jan 2007 at 21:21

easyrider said:
Well i'll be happy for 9 x 400 3.6 ghz under my water setup

What kinda Dual-Core load temps have u been getting from your H2o?

megatron · 22 Jan 2007 at 21:25

WJA96 said:
Hi, you can buy good fast RAM if you like, and it won't hurt with the P5N-E SLi, but it's not necessary as it allows you to fix the RAM and CPU speeds independently.

8800GTX and GTS both run fin ein SLI on the P5N-E SLI. The whole thing about 16x slots being required appears to be rubbish.

If you are going with the P5N-E SLi then you don't need to run the RAM on a fixed ratio to the CPU speed. You can fix them independently. So you can buy cheapo RAM, overclock that as far as it will go, then fix it at those settings and overclock the CPU as hard as you can without worrying about the RAM anymore. The P5N-E SLi is a 680i board that's had it's 16x slots cut back to 8x slots. Other than that (and a few esoteric Southbridge options), it's the same chipset.

Ive actually read in 1 review and on xxtremesystems.org forums that the running 1:1 at high speeds doesnt work as well as with the 680i and that it needs a bios revision to sort it. Maybe just near 500Mhz though...

Also about that thing I said with the 8800 needing 2 x 16 pci-e slots, read that directly from the description on OcUK sales page; but it is contradicted in a few reviews Ive read ect. Doesnt concern me however, as I "only" have a single x1900xt.

Im not really itching for an upgrade ATM though, I was playing City of Villains which got a little choppy in places (with a large group) but Ive cancelled subs and Ill be playing America's Army and BF2 till I see a new game I think is worth getting.

Not sure why but Im anticipating Quake wars: Enemy territory. I like the Battlefield series but I always thought that Quake and Unreal Tournament had far better hitbox models and physics/character animation general feel.

man_from_uncle · 22 Jan 2007 at 21:25

WJA96 said:
If you are going with the P5N-E SLi then you don't need to run the RAM on a fixed ratio to the CPU speed. You can fix them independently. So you can buy cheapo RAM, overclock that as far as it will go, then fix it at those settings and overclock the CPU as hard as you can without worrying about the RAM anymore. The P5N-E SLi is a 680i board that's had it's 16x slots cut back to 8x slots. Other than that (and a few esoteric Southbridge options), it's the same chipset.

It's not that I doubt you, but that's quite a big change in the world of overclocking. How much info is there on this? Does it still help if you run them partially in sync, like 4:5? Or do you just aim to get them both as high as possible for the best result? This is as big a step as when PCI bus speeds got fixed (nforce2 ?).

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