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Saitek X52 pro seems popular I'm waiting to see what the revues are like for the X55 which is due around April
 
Quite like the look of the X52 Pro.

Are the Saitek ones quite heavy or do they have suckers on the bottom?
Just wondering as I use a deskmat which obviously won't work with suckers.
 
Quite like the look of the X52 Pro.

Are the Saitek ones quite heavy or do they have suckers on the bottom?
Just wondering as I use a deskmat which obviously won't work with suckers.

I haven't had to use my suckers, it holds position fairly well on a smooth table. I didn't think it was heavy but it's heavy enough for the throttle not to move without the suckers.
 
Come to this rather later sadly. Is shelling out £200 now the only way to be able to access this? I have seen various other prices mentioned but just can't justify that :/
 
Well as much as I'd like to have a dabble I'm not dropping £200 ;)

You can add the remaining amount to what you have already paid. I pm'ed them and i just added another 50 quid. Im not gonna bother with SC so thats why i went for it, i was also an original backer on KS of SC but asked for a refund of £225 because all there doing is churning out ships and tbh there is going to be some heavy unbalancing going on, the game wont be fully playable and balanced for maybe 3 years from now and even when it is there will be other stuff to play. I think ED will wipe the floor with it anyhow once all the features are implemented.
 
You can add the remaining amount to what you have already paid. I pm'ed them and i just added another 50 quid. Im not gonna bother with SC so thats why i went for it, i was also an original backer on KS of SC but asked for a refund of £225 because all there doing is churning out ships and tbh there is going to be some heavy unbalancing going on, the game wont be fully playable and balanced for maybe 3 years from now and even when it is there will be other stuff to play. I think ED will wipe the floor with it anyhow once all the features are implemented.

Exactly SC is pay to win, it's getting retarded the way they are just churning ships
 
Pay to win? In what way?

You can get any of the ships in-game, just as you can get ED ships in game, the only difference is what you start with, which in many cases will be a large ship and bugger all money to buy anything by the way some people have pledged.

I really, honestly don't understand the SC or ED bashing, both communities do it. It's childish and in many cases simply ill-informed twaddle (an excellent word btw).
 
Pay to win? In what way?

You can get any of the ships in-game, just as you can get ED ships in game, the only difference is what you start with, which in many cases will be a large ship and bugger all money to buy anything by the way some people have pledged.

I really, honestly don't understand the SC or ED bashing, both communities do it. It's childish and in many cases simply ill-informed twaddle (an excellent word btw).

I haven't backed either game so am neutral. Of course it's pay to win, all these backers are gonna have a massive advantage over people who buy SC retail, it's gonna put many off unless they have some serious balance. At the moment all I see is SC releasing ship after ship to get more £
 
What advantage? You keep saying it like it's fact but I've been a backer on both games since early days and honestly can't see any.

If you buy SC retail the only things you won't be able to get are:

1. Life time insurance - which frankly is likely to be worthless and has been permanently withdrawn for everyone from now on. So it's only on certain ships and only covers the hull - not any upgrades added later. The value of this is extremely debatable but it offers no performance/combat advantage and you can't simply spam a new ship out.

2. A golden ticket which right now is allegedly going to be something cosmetic anyway and only covers the first 10,000 people who registered interest in the game (i.e. registered on a website - no cash involved).

So where's this advantage you speak of?

They're releasing more ships as it brings in funds, news flash - it's a business. Do you think E : D charging £200+ to take part in an alpha is OK but charging for an in-game item for a game that's about to hit alpha isn't? I really don't see what the problem is. This is adults spending their cash to back game development which others can then benefit from and which keeps it out of the hands of publishers.

I don't want to derail the E : D thread, I'm a backer of it and actually more excited about it than SC at the moment.
 
Are there any dates from when it might go from Alpha to Beta?


No, they've got things that they want to test in the alpha before they move into the beta, so they are just working through those different alpha stages. Things are going well, so it looks like they've added more new stuff to the different alpha stages. This might make it take longer to get to beta, but when beta arrives, it will have more of the game elements already in place.
 
What advantage? You keep saying it like it's fact but I've been a backer on both games since early days and honestly can't see any.

If you buy SC retail the only things you won't be able to get are:

1. Life time insurance - which frankly is likely to be worthless and has been permanently withdrawn for everyone from now on. So it's only on certain ships and only covers the hull - not any upgrades added later. The value of this is extremely debatable but it offers no performance/combat advantage and you can't simply spam a new ship out.

2. A golden ticket which right now is allegedly going to be something cosmetic anyway and only covers the first 10,000 people who registered interest in the game (i.e. registered on a website - no cash involved).

So where's this advantage you speak of?

They're releasing more ships as it brings in funds, news flash - it's a business. Do you think E : D charging £200+ to take part in an alpha is OK but charging for an in-game item for a game that's about to hit alpha isn't? I really don't see what the problem is. This is adults spending their cash to back game development which others can then benefit from and which keeps it out of the hands of publishers.

I don't want to derail the E : D thread, I'm a backer of it and actually more excited about it than SC at the moment.


the problem people see, is the people buying all these ships to start the game with them as when someone else buys the retails version of SC he/she will start with a starter ship. This might be mis-informed on my part but that's how i see it without reading to much into it.
i haven't funded SC, but probably will some time in the future ;)
 
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