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bigsteve said:
how many Torp to take out the Frigates then, Cruises would be better, & too add a little flavor a target paint for the frigs/cruisers.
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Why shoot torps/cruise at frigs when your drones can kill them for "free" while your killing the cruisers/battlecruisers/BS with torps/cruise.

It takes me about 2-3 salvos to kill guristas cruisers (110k bounty) or i jsut leave my drones on them while im shooting the BS.
 
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Cruises hurt frigs. Tis why Cruise are the top dog for missiles. Fit a painter instead of a boost amp and you'll make absolute wrecks of frigs with cruise missiles.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
Cruises hurt frigs. Tis why Cruise are the top dog for missiles. Fit a painter instead of a boost amp and you'll make absolute wrecks of frigs with cruise missiles.
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Sure but at the expense of your tank, drones and torps lets you keep a solid tank and kill the frigs. Cruise and painter poons a midslot and slows you down vs battleships. Point noted tho, didnt think cruise were that good still vs frigs, except the precisions.
 
Paint the BS and you'll hit harder than with unpainted torps :)

I've seen combat logs from people hitting frigs for 450dmg when using a painter, so imagine the damage a BS will get..

And since RMR you don't need to fit a Therm hardener, very few now use Thermal ammo. At least in Angel space you don't.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
Paint the BS and you'll hit harder than with unpainted torps :)

I've seen combat logs from people hitting frigs for 450dmg when using a painter, so imagine the damage a BS will get..

And since RMR you don't need to fit a Therm hardener, very few now use Thermal ammo. At least in Angel space you don't.
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Nice il have a play, thanks for letting me know :)
 
I always thought that Target painting battleship was pointless, as increasing the Signature radius of the ship isnt going to affect the damage output any, as the Sig radius of the guns is the same is the ship.
 
Increases the chance of a wrecking hit afaik, as the ship sig radius vs gun sig radius has better odds.

It might make a difference to missiles as the damage will be reduced if the ship is moving, so if the odds in sig radius are better, then maybe it increases damage. :dunno:
 
Forget painting a BS for the reason Steve said. Use the mid slot for something more useful.

K.
 
CryptKeeper said:
Heinky..
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If that is indeed the case then I guess I am wrong, however I never accused him of theft, you've got to admit it looks quite suspicious though?


DanSolo said:
Now were gonna have -5-... spamming the forums with "OMFG WERE SO LEET" when none of them had the balls to do it on their own, oh well :)
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actually we have been quite busy eradicating PA...

DanSolo said:
As a raven pilot (hangs head in shame) Id use torp launchers with Bane torps, Large N-O-S, 1 Explosive, 1 Kinetic, 1 thermal active T2 hardners, XL Sheild Booster, Sheild boost amp, 3 BCS T2 and 2 PDU T2. Not to forget medium explosive drones.
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Why are you using an Explosive hardener where you have 60% base resist and no EM hardener where you have 0% base resist?

bigsteve said:
I always thought that Target painting battleship was pointless, as increasing the Signature radius of the ship isnt going to affect the damage output any, as the Sig radius of the guns is the same is the ship.
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Assuming T1 missiles:
A cruise missile has an explosion radius of 300m
A torp has an explosion radius of 400m

Battleship Sig res ranges from 320 (typhoon) to 480 (Scorpian) (im sure there are some faction ship differences).

However this means when the guided missile precision skill which reduces the factor of target sig radius by 5% per level that the sig sizes are all under 360 and most nearer to 300.

Assuming that of course eve works this way, that would mean that painting another Battleship has no effect on the damage torps deal, and when using cruise, with the exception of maybe against a Scorp or Raven, that painting the BS will a very small difference. Therefore target painter against BS for a raven pilot = pointless.

This point is obviously quite irrelevent if indeed you fire at frigs/cruisers or are fitting against an unknown enemy because then they make a big difference to the damage you deal.



...and :mad: :( got podded for the first time in 7 months of eve today, ganked in jita, lagged to death and unable to dock/warp, by a fully stabbed and aligned tempest in PA. Bye implants :(
 
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Dj_Jestar said:
ASCN High Command also has a policy about not blabbing on public forums :o
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Actually, we don't. Its been repeatedly said by our high command that they have no interest in trying to put such a rule in place, despite calls for it to be done by ASCN members themselves. The only thing they've done is ask us not to post in the "Corporations and Alliances Summit" and "Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions".
 
DanSolo said:
Sure but at the expense of your tank, drones and torps lets you keep a solid tank and kill the frigs. Cruise and painter poons a midslot and slows you down vs battleships. Point noted tho, didnt think cruise were that good still vs frigs, except the precisions.
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from what I understand
Cruise missiles are effected by the bonuses for missiles, sig radius etc with painters, but torps are not
 
Garp said:
Actually, we don't. Its been repeatedly said by our high command that they have no interest in trying to put such a rule in place, despite calls for it to be done by ASCN members themselves. The only thing they've done is ask us not to post in the "Corporations and Alliances Summit" and "Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions".
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I'm sure you'll find waffling about any and all policies our alliance has with -10 and other hostiles that are on this forum, they will soon smite you ;)
 
Dj_Jestar said:
I'm sure you'll find waffling about any and all policies our alliance has with -10 and other hostiles that are on this forum, they will soon smite you ;)
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I only mention public policies, very carefully ;) ASCNs position about mercs is well known and has been stated by cyvok and steelrat on the eve-o forums on numerous occasions.
 
Garp said:
I only mention public policies, very carefully ;) ASCNs position about mercs is well known and has been stated by cyvok and steelrat on the eve-o forums on numerous occasions.
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"We are working on something big, you all know what it is"

was not a public policy, nor careful. :p
 
bigsteve said:
how many Torp to take out the Frigates then, Cruises would be better, & too add a little flavor a target paint for the frigs/cruisers.
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only issue then would be the BS
 
VeNT said:
only issue then would be the BS
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cruise missiles are pretty good at taking out BS' I use them in lvl 4's and can take out 1.2 million ISK BS faster with cruise missiles than I can with torps, mainly due to my extra skills.

I have to use torps on named rats though, like the 2.5million ones in certain missions
 
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