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So whats occuring then? I take it that bob has stated mission acomplished and it upto its usual?
D-F-C will be resetting all standings over the next 2 days, if you wanna keep us hostile fair enough, but everyone will be neutral.
Mini games sound good
D-F-C will be resetting all standings over the next 2 days, if you wanna keep us hostile fair enough, but everyone will be neutral.
Mini games sound good
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They want to introduce gambling as well (like poker etc.) according to the vegas interview/q&aSkully said:
but tbh.. that's still boring. I want them to make the actual game mechnics of POS wars fun.. not a distraction.
[DW]Muffin said:The *Imperial Republic* () of the North died, we destroyed G Capital Ship Yards and stopped thier income for a while, so yeah mission accomplished.
But woot, targets, nice outposts, we'll take em'
True, it was a nice operation, and what makes eve great, although, its pretty much a given from now that if you get 600 people in a system any defense force is gonna be unable to even jump in, so if you got the organisation its as close to a "win" button in eve as it gets.
IRON had it comming tbh, i and the fellow directors or DFC predicted that IRON/G would come under pressure from the culprits over 3 months ago, and we acted acordingly, i cant see why IRON/G didnt see it, maybe they did, but ignorance is hardly bliss in a game like eve. Im so glad we told iron a firm NO when we were asked us to join
So i take it all the allied alliances that were in ec are gonna start tearing hte ass out of eachother again?
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There were only 600 on the first night, and with there being so many of use, saving EC- is a lot easier then you think. All they had to do was use the numerous Cyno guys in the system, stick them all up at deep safes, one by one and jump in their capital fleet, the gate camps would disappear in seconds, and then jump in the G & IRON fleets. If you don’t go straight to combat, but regroup at a POS, they could have easily got in 200-300 ships, wit the loss of maybe 4-5 capital ships.
[DW]Muffin said:
True, but what kind of an idiot commits 4-5 capital ships to certain death to fight at battle 200-600 or even 200-400? It really made very little difference to me, apart form a couple of wasted sundays, so im not having a go at the operation as it was cleverly done, joining previously hostile forces together to overcome a common foe. But it has shown that the blob always wins when used in this manner, which is a little worrying.
It will certainly be interesting watching the situation in Deklein develop now that the previous landlords are down the pub
Thats the point, you could have used the sheer number of us, against us, with 6 cynos going up and 4 sepreate gangs, who goes where to do what?
Sometimes you have to loose ships to get kills, or save bigger things. It's only isk, Dreads are T1, so sort of fully insured.
Sometimes you have to loose ships to get kills, or save bigger things. It's only isk, Dreads are T1, so sort of fully insured.
[DW]Muffin said:
Either way, whether IRON/G jumped their forces and got some kills for a massive amount of losses, EC was lost from the moment that 600 people appeared in local. Sure Carriers and Dreads are insurable, but im sure most people are in agreement that ISK is easy to get, however the logistics in purchasing new dreads/carriers in a hurry is not. Bearing in mind after spending 6 hrs on an op to move down to ec and fight for it, once we got the there FC was instructing people to return back to vfk, i was one of the people saying, sod it lets just jump and see what happens.
Once again either way i dont care as im no longer a resident of the area
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Being in EC-P, experiencing the camps & having the intel/status within system, I did mention to a few of my corp "I'd love to be a hostile in here". It would have just taken balls.
Once it becomes more of a realisation that Capital vessel's have to be deploy in less then desirable environments, that these things have a high risk to value balance, but you just gotta suck it up & push with confidence, then the POS game should be an exciting event.
1 Covert-Ops, + 4 or 5 switch'd on BS pilots would have done so much damage. Or 1 Cov-Ops, 4/5 interceptors & 4/5 HAC. Now that would have made a right mess.
Whats the 1 certainty with a gate camp? You know exactly where the enemy is should you have the balls to lose half of what you have to get half in.
Neoteric
Fleet battles, sure lock me up, I'm not the FC
Once it becomes more of a realisation that Capital vessel's have to be deploy in less then desirable environments, that these things have a high risk to value balance, but you just gotta suck it up & push with confidence, then the POS game should be an exciting event.
1 Covert-Ops, + 4 or 5 switch'd on BS pilots would have done so much damage. Or 1 Cov-Ops, 4/5 interceptors & 4/5 HAC. Now that would have made a right mess.
Whats the 1 certainty with a gate camp? You know exactly where the enemy is should you have the balls to lose half of what you have to get half in.
Neoteric
Fleet battles, sure lock me up, I'm not the FC
DanSolo said:Either way, whether IRON/G jumped their forces and got some kills for a massive amount of losses, EC was lost from the moment that 600 people appeared in local. Sure Carriers and Dreads are insurable, but im sure most people are in agreement that ISK is easy to get, however the logistics in purchasing new dreads/carriers in a hurry is not. Bearing in mind after spending 6 hrs on an op to move down to ec and fight for it, once we got the there FC was instructing people to return back to vfk, i was one of the people saying, sod it lets just jump and see what happens.
Once again either way i dont care as im no longer a resident of the area
If G & IRON were more bothered about saving a few dreads and carriers because they couldn't be bothered to do the logistics, then they will die, or already have in one case. The Capital ship yards and Outpost far out wiegh that and if even the pilots arn't willing to loose their ships for the greater good, then forces who are will Rule EvE™
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In retrospect it probably wasnt about loosing ships to defend a key area, it probably has more to do with trying to defend a key area when there are 5+ hostile alliances showing an interest in taking your area, IRON musta decided that it was a force it was not capable of defeating, so why throw away 5 perfectly good dreads, for something they were going to walk away from anyways.
Personally there is no love lost with me and iron tbh, so im no way defending them on any forums. The way they walked away from the fight, not giving anyone any notice. Luckly we made a call over 3 months ago to move our assets out of the area, with an approximate valuation of 35bill+, there are plenty of corps still up there that didnt have the same luxury. A 35bill + loss to a corp our size (approx 50 people) is a large loss to write off.
But either way, it was a slick op from all those involved.
