The *Official* Eve Online Thread

Richard Slater said:
Its the same as paying for Counter Strike or Battlefield servers from hosting providers.

The main difference is that there is no single-player offline mode or the ability to setup your own servers.

In what way is it the same? I do not own a hosted server of any kind as I will not pay money for the online aspect of a game that I have already paid out for. Also, in what capacity am I running a server in Eve? Surely I'm simply running a client?
 
Scottie2004 said:
I just can't bring myself to pay for a game on a monthly basis. I strongly disagree with the business model of paying for a client and then having to pay further fees.

it's not really that bad, i offset it by imaginig how many different games i would have bought, eve makes me play a LOT less games tbh.

Ribbo
 
Exactly, it costs 24pence a day for me to play and I play ... I dunno 30 hours a week?

Christ, you end up paying more for single player games then getting less out of them. You get dedicated support, new updates, new expansions, single server.

To be fair, it is cheap for what you get ... My friend pays £13 a month for a small Counterstrike Source server, and we only play 2-3 hours every couple of days.

Like someone said before - nothing is free, somewhere someone is paying for the BF2 servers etc. and if you want to get involved in a big league, or clan you will then find yourself paying for servers/teamspeak etc.

:) Anyway, rant mode over hehe.
 
Scottie2004 said:
I just can't bring myself to pay for a game on a monthly basis. I strongly disagree with the business model of paying for a client and then having to pay further fees.
Then you have no place in this thread if you don't want to play a subscription based game. Thanks for coming.

K.
 
Scottie2004 said:
In what way is it the same? I do not own a hosted server of any kind as I will not pay money for the online aspect of a game that I have already paid out for. Also, in what capacity am I running a server in Eve? Surely I'm simply running a client?

Umm.. Eve isn't a single player game. Maybe thats the source of confusion here? I hope it is. You're not just "simply running a client" You're running a client that connects to a single massive server that up to 25,000 other players are on at any one time.

Eve is based one large sized cluster of servers (70x AMD Opteron LS20 Blades , just to run the primary game cluster, let alone the redundant servers ready for hot swapping in case of disaster) all of which is hosted in a datacentre in London. Essentially Eve is one massive database for which your client is merely a graphical query engine.
Alongside the running costs of those servers, you've got the monthly costs of the bandwidth connections (not cheap, a typical LES100 connection will set you back £70,000 per year, and I'd guess they've got at least 4 of those, plus some as backups), plus the cost of staff to maintain and run the servers. You've also got to cover the costs of support staff, accounting staff, programmers, and so on.

How are they supposed to fund this? Magic? Yeah, the initial peak of people buying the game would help offset the initial equipment purchase and bandwidth costs, but that money soon disappears and the longer term impact of running costs becomes more apparent.

Paying monthly is the only reasonable approach to these, or routine releases of new 'paid-for' content. If you adopt the latter model you'd get people put under pressure to purchase the add-ons just to be able to participate in group activities. EQ2 adopts this model (but Sony being the ever greedy Sony they also charge a monthly fee :mad:), and I know of people who are ****** at being forced to buy new content, seen it happen in other MMORGPS (WoW is just about to do it too..) CCP is unusual in that it doesn't charge for huge content updates, they continue to be free. If anything Eve is one of the cheaper MMORPGs out there.

If you're going to complain, at least understand what you're actually talking about before you do so.
 
bigsteve said:
GArp goes OTT

Oh i have just ripped a huge hole in the but of my trousers, LOL,

OTT, possibly, but it was a really stupid question. Figured if he's not understanding it from the simple responses, maybe an over the top, in depth answer might just bludgeon it into his head in a way he might understand..
 
Scottie2004 said:
In what way is it the same? I do not own a hosted server of any kind as I will not pay money for the online aspect of a game that I have already paid out for. Also, in what capacity am I running a server in Eve? Surely I'm simply running a client?
So, you must think vALVE pay for all the servers that are hosting CS games?
 
High:
3x 250mm Railgun IIs
2x Heavy Arbalest launchers

Med:
10mn AB II
Warp scrambler
4x Sensor dampeners IIs
Cap recharger 2

Low:
MAR II
Exp hardener II
Damage Control

quickly grabbed off Eve-o
 
I still can believe how hung up people get, and all over a tenner a month! :eek: £10 a month is a bargin for 23/7 gaming considering it will cost you the best part of a fiver to rent a DVD, for one maybe 2 days. Garp's pretty much spot on with his earlier post.

Ahh the Lachesis is a nice ship, not on the same playing field for fun as the Pilgrim and Curse tho :) Only a couple of days more and i will be able to fly one reasonably effectively, instead of stealing my brothers login details :P
 
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