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I think bigfoot could have taken him anyhow :) hopefully his pinky will heal and he will be back...

apparantly a major ufc announcment is due tommorow? any idea....

Perhaps strikeforce to fold early into ufc and let the fans enjoy the superfights sooner rather then later ?
 
This is his last shot at a title IMO. If he fails here he'll retire and be a commentator full time or something.
 
I imagine so, many people fail to realise Kenny is actually older than Big Nog and many other people who you see as being old school.

He will have a decent career in commentary or media side of MMA once he is done.
 
I think kennys gonna try his best but yeah the younger hungry tiger will keep his place secure and yeah kenny will actually make a better commentater or within the mma media, thats already prooven over the years, ufc would give him a job for life its either that or they watch tito ortiz attempting ring side commentry :)
 
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you have to laugh when people think tito is overpaid at $500K.

boxer's like Tyson used to get paid in the tens of millions per fight and some still do.

UFC fighter's are heavily underpaid, remember just because we watch it for free on ESPN, doesn not mean there aren't millions of people paying $15 to watch in in America.

add in all the advertising money, it's all over the ring and even the commentators advertise constantly (this scorecard is brought to you by such and such, and this preparation area is sponsored by such and such, and the seat im sitting on was brought to you by such and such, its ridiculous, you get adverts shoved down your throat every second).

then their is the UFC game, UFC t shirts, UFC official equipment and gloves, etc.

Dana white blows stupid money on stupid stunts like getting one of his employees office fully redecorated when he took a vacation before some main event as a prank, you can quite clearly see he is not exactly struggling.

i dont know why Strikeforce sold out to Zuffa, but their is serious money within MMA now and the fighters dont get any of it.
 
I agree with some points but just feel if one fighter like tito gets 500k and then ryan bader gets 30k, just baffles the mind really.

I understand tito and chuck and randy, were talking about the guys that got ufc to ufc today, but its almost like dana whites been paying tito a retirement fund everytime he fights and he still gets paid more then the rest of all the fighters.... put together !

Its like lyoto machida asking for more extra money to take a fight on short notice, hes saving the event and saving face to ufc and it would have been a great match up, yet dana took it very personal. I mean titos proberly gonna get a pay check that proberly beats all the fighters put together again we will see !

Anyhow definatly agreed ufc makes a lot of money and could pay the fighters a lot better considering what they go thru, but then again 500k for 15 minutes work aint such a bad deal especially if its ended within a minute ;)

A question though, money on tito or evans ?
 
evans by a mile surely.

tito has won 1 of his last 6 fights and is 36, had various problems and his last wins were against bader (an amateur really, who is good but not in the top 10) and shamrock (past it and has been for a long time). evans has only lost 1 fight his whole career to machida and put away some of the top guys out there, could maybe do with some high level competition but he is proven.

most likely going to go to decision, dont think evans will stand with him, expect a boring fight, with evans being extremely negative, but doing enough to score points.

if both were at their peak, i would pick tito, but i think its an uphill struggle for his comeback.
 
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Tito only drew Rashad last time because he had a point taken away.

I really can't count Tito out of this fight, I see it going to decision whoever wins it mind you.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
UFC fighter's are heavily underpaid, remember just because we watch it for free on ESPN, doesn not mean there aren't millions of people paying $15 to watch in in America.
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I completely agree with your post about fighters being underpaid but you've underestimated how much PPV revenue they make, the PPV's are closer to $50 than $15, and it's $60 for HD!
 
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I completely agree with your post about fighters being underpaid but you've underestimated how much PPV revenue they make, the PPV's are closer to $50 than $15, and it's $60 for HD!
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wtf? :confused:

$50 and $60 for HD? :eek:

that's unreal, surely nobody buys it then lol? i would rather download it 6 hours later than pay $15 never mind $60 to watch it live.
 
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wtf? :confused:

$50 and $60 for HD? :eek:

that's unreal, surely nobody buys it then lol? i would rather download it 6 hours later than pay $15 never mind $60 to watch it live.
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The are not that underpaid find out how much a boxer on the under card of a main event earns not a great deal.

Then take into account the arena will take 50% of gate revenue.

Then take into account the ppv suppler takes 50% of ppv sales.

Then take into account all the staff the ufc has. then marketing which cost a hell of a lot etc

It all costs a lot of money. Then add into the fact the released earning are not representative, as they have a lot of bonuses which are not listed. Things like % off ppv sales free cars, trucks, holidays etc

Then take into account it's an up and coming sport, so the owners need to take a larger supply of the taking than an established sport, for "rainy days" and to reinvest.
 
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The are not that underpaid find out how much a boxer on the under card of a main event earns not a great deal.

Then take into account the arena will take 50% of gate revenue.

Then take into account the ppv suppler takes 50% of ppv sales.

Then take into account all the staff the ufc has. then marketing which cost a hell of a lot etc

It all costs a lot of money. Then add into the fact the released earning are not representative, as they have a lot of bonuses which are not listed. Things like % off ppv sales free cars, trucks, holidays etc

Then take into account it's an up and coming sport, so the owners need to take a larger supply of the taking than an established sport, for "rainy days" and to reinvest.
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boxing also has all of these "overheads", they also have many more fighter's and many more belts and weight classes.

im just saying if you compare directly, like for like, UFC fighters are more than likely heavily underpaid.

compare Mayweather with Anderson Silva
GSP with De La Hoya
Tito with Tyson

etc.

i dont think UFC fighters should be getting £10 millions per fight, but they should be getting a lot more than what they do if they are in the top 10 of their division.
 
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boxing also has all of these "overheads", they also have many more fighter's and many more belts and weight classes.

im just saying if you compare directly, like for like, UFC fighters are more than likely heavily underpaid.

compare Mayweather with Anderson Silva
GSP with De La Hoya
Tito with Tyson

etc.

i dont think UFC fighters should be getting £10 millions per fight, but they should be getting a lot more than what they do if they are in the top 10 of their division.
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If the ufc paid them £10 million per fight it would be bankrupt

Your average ppv for a ufc card is about 600,000 rarely over a million more often than not around 400,000 - 500,000 now i would guess the ufc will be walking away with around 25 -30 million cash in the bank average for one of these events. Then you have to take into account millions spent on promotion, all the full time staff have to be paid. Of course the Fertittas will want their cut, same with dana white. Thats without even taking fighter pay into account. Then they will have to pay for premises etc I think you are grossly overestimating how much walk away cash the ufc makes.

And as i have said many of the top fighters are getting a lot lot more than you think in other bonuses they get homes, cars, holidays % ppv sales etc
They also have other sidelines like sponsorship, own gyms etc so they are far from being poor.

Also the ufc puts on free network shows, where all the usual things have to be paid for, with the network paying for a lot of thing. But i would bet the ufc takes a small hit or make zero on these events.
 
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dana white only owns like 9% of Zuffa and is worth like $150 million.

how much does someone like Anderson Silva or GSP (the top pound for pound fighters) make on a yearly basis directly from the UFC (excluding sponsorship, and teaching, etc)

i know they shouldnt be making $10 million per fight, but i reckon by now they should be getting a lot more than what they do.

as for the houses and cars, etc, im sure only select fighters get such deals, not all of them. also if they were getting paid properly, im pretty sure they could afford better cars and houses anyway.

they are underpaid, nobody will know exactly how much they should be getting paid, but GSP for the amount of revenue he brings in from Canada should be a multi millionaire by now.
 
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dana white only owns like 9% of Zuffa and is worth like $150 million.

how much does someone like Anderson Silva or GSP (the top pound for pound fighters) make on a yearly basis directly from the UFC (excluding sponsorship, and teaching, etc)

i know they shouldnt be making $10 million per fight, but i reckon by now they should be getting a lot more than what they do.

as for the houses and cars, etc, im sure only select fighters get such deals, not all of them. also if they were getting paid properly, im pretty sure they could afford better cars and houses anyway.

they are underpaid, nobody will know exactly how much they should be getting paid, but GSP for the amount of revenue he brings in from Canada should be a multi millionaire by now.
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No one know exactly how much they make apart from the ufc and the fighters. The gifts are done as I'm sure there will be some tax loophole

I would guess quite a lot as i would be they are are all on a high % of merchandise sales lots of extra gifts %ppv buys + normal earnings.

And as for fighters on the undercard why should they be paid more? they are there to work their way up and how much revenue do you think they pull into the ufc?

They are there to take the risks and put on exciting fight and can quite easily walk away with $100k+ if they do this.

I don't think you grasp the concept of a business if they gave away all their cash after each event they would have nothing to invest and fall back on.

And you have not commented on all the free cards ie fight nights, ufc live, over seas ufc ie no ppv all these will be subsidised via the main cards.

Dana white only owns 9% wow shocked new news;) But you do know a business is valued? He does not have $150 million in the bank, his $150 million is based on the current revenue and future revenue of the company. Ie what the ufc is worth. He has not been walking away with $10+ million in his back pocket after each event. Simply as the business has grown so has his worth.
 
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Which MMA fighter doesnt want to have anderson silva money ?

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silva is my favourite fighter, the guy is insane, he is also extremely well educated in many forms of martial arts, he holds like 3 different black belts (possibly more im just going off wiki), yellow rope in capoeira, has even done boxing in the past, its just a pity he is now 36 and most likely in decline, yet still the best in the world.

i would loved to have seen an anderson silva at 25/26 with the knowledge and skills he has now. he has even fought at 3 different weights and demolished some of the worlds best fighters.

i just dont like how he sometimes backs away and can be very defensive, that fight when he ran away for like 3 rounds was awful, think it was the maia fight. he looked like a complete **** in that fight, but has bounced back since then.

we may never see anyone as good as him ever again in our lifetimes tbh, he has completely dominated and humiliated a lot of world class fighters.
 
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