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Soldato
Yeah Sonnen is crap really. He dominated and controlled the best fighter in the world for 4 1/2 rounds but that doesn't matter cos he's crap 
And I think it's funny he's running his mouth. He's building the fight upto possibly one of the best fights of MMA history.
And I think it's funny he's running his mouth. He's building the fight upto possibly one of the best fights of MMA history.
He did nothing though for 4.5 rounds thats the problem! He had good mounts and control and didn't let Silva do anything yet he made 0 progress and never went for any submissions or owt from what I remember, literally just pinned him down.
It's not just that fight he mouths off about everything. Read earlier that he is banned from fighting in Nevada, which is where superbowl is isn't it? He got banned for doping against Silva last fight as well no? If I was Silva I wouldn't entertain him with another fight.
I don't have a problem with wrestlers, its a great base in MMA and as we see from Uk fighters we can't deal with it, I have a problem with wrestlers that do little else. Ok he got 1 sub last night but from 26 wins 15 have been decisions, that is not an exciting fighter at all. Why I also have a love hate thing for GSP. Difference is the way GSP conducts himself he doesn't need to be a complete ****.
It's not just that fight he mouths off about everything. Read earlier that he is banned from fighting in Nevada, which is where superbowl is isn't it? He got banned for doping against Silva last fight as well no? If I was Silva I wouldn't entertain him with another fight.
I don't have a problem with wrestlers, its a great base in MMA and as we see from Uk fighters we can't deal with it, I have a problem with wrestlers that do little else. Ok he got 1 sub last night but from 26 wins 15 have been decisions, that is not an exciting fighter at all. Why I also have a love hate thing for GSP. Difference is the way GSP conducts himself he doesn't need to be a complete ****.
not sure if you have heard of compustrike
http://www.compustrike.com/stats_files/ufc_117/Silva-Sonnen.HTM
289 strikes landed 416 thrown. hardly 'doing nothing' for four and a half rounds
http://www.compustrike.com/stats_files/ufc_117/Silva-Sonnen.HTM
289 strikes landed 416 thrown. hardly 'doing nothing' for four and a half rounds
Silva ended that fight barely a mark on him! Sonnen didn't make enough of his opportunities that fight. I have it here and going through it again, skipping through it the fight looks identical most of the way through. Loads of his punches are little tippy tappy things from the top.
O yeah and thats not forget Sonnen tapping and then pretending he didn't "What? What?!"
O yeah and thats not forget Sonnen tapping and then pretending he didn't "What? What?!"
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who said anything about silva having visible damage on him? you said he layed and prayed silva but stats say he clearly did not
Caporegime
Great card last night I felt.
Really happy to see Edgar take away the victory in dominant fashion. Maynard is a one trick pony, if it's not lying on someone for 15 minutes it's ;
Uppercut...
Dance around
Uppercut...
Rinse and repeat. Outclassed by the better fighter.
Also happy to see Sonnen win, the guy is good for the sport in my eyes, brings a bit of entertainment to the media side.
Also can't believe so many people were writing Lauzon out. Everyone remembers Guillards ground game completely sucks right?
Really happy to see Edgar take away the victory in dominant fashion. Maynard is a one trick pony, if it's not lying on someone for 15 minutes it's ;
Uppercut...
Dance around
Uppercut...
Rinse and repeat. Outclassed by the better fighter.
Also happy to see Sonnen win, the guy is good for the sport in my eyes, brings a bit of entertainment to the media side.
Also can't believe so many people were writing Lauzon out. Everyone remembers Guillards ground game completely sucks right?
I'm sorry but a couple of posts in this thread have made me quite literally laugh out loud. People citing Chael Sonnen as a boring Lay and Pray artist? The guy has one of the most active top games I've seen, he is constantly looking to land shots, looking to land anything. Sure they're not the powerful or hurtful of shots but he is always active, always has a fist in your face, and to tar him with the Lay and Pray brush just smacks of complete ignornace about MMA.
I'm not a fan of wrestlers as a whole, I understand the skill involved but I agree with Nick Diaz in that a lot of wrestlers dont show up to the win a fight, they show up to win a match if you get what I mean. But Chael Sonnen is no safety first blanket like Fitch or like Koscheck was against Daley. The reason he finds himself getting submitted so much is because he stays busy and takes the sort of chances that means he leaves an arm in somewhere he shouldnt, like the end of the Silva fight.
Its fine to be a fan of Anderson Silva, but you're only harming your own credibility with comments saying that Sonnen did 'nothing' for 4 and a half rounds. First off, everybody is different, some fighters mark up really easily, Sonnen and Fitch are both good examples of this. I swear if those two were to be involved in a pillow fight with a couple of schoolgirls they'd come out looking like they'd been in a car crash. I've never seen Anderson marked up at all, and from the amount of strikes that Sonnen landed on him you'd expect to see something... so I'm going to say that he probably has quite durable skin. However if you remember the end of the Silva vs Sonnen fight, Anderson had to be helped to the back after the fight as he had taken a beating on his way to picking up the win.
As for Chael's smack talk - last night was genius. People were already talking about the Sonnen vs Silva rematch, like it or not the last time they fought Silva was a little over 2 minutes away from losing his belt, it was that close. Sonnen is the only person to mount a real challenge to Silva since he joined the UFC, aside from Palhares it was probably the only match it made sense to make. So what does Sonnen do? He adds a whole new level of hype to it, a loser leaves town match? really? It feels like something straight out of the WWE but it works, its already got me hyped and I tell you what... that is going to sell PPV's by the dozen. Even if Chael loses and does leave the UFC it makes perfect sense for him, he hasnt got many years left in him most likely, for a main event he will get what 3% of the PPV? 1.2 million buys at $70 a pop... Easy money.
As for Gulliard, I'm so glad he got taken down a notch, I have never liked him, even before he joined up with Greg Jacksons camp and actually started winning. Lauzon is an extremely dangerous fighter early, kinda like a skilled Phil Baroni... and just like Baroni the more he fades as the fight gos on, but Melvin didnt respect that, and he paid the price. Good.
I'm not a fan of wrestlers as a whole, I understand the skill involved but I agree with Nick Diaz in that a lot of wrestlers dont show up to the win a fight, they show up to win a match if you get what I mean. But Chael Sonnen is no safety first blanket like Fitch or like Koscheck was against Daley. The reason he finds himself getting submitted so much is because he stays busy and takes the sort of chances that means he leaves an arm in somewhere he shouldnt, like the end of the Silva fight.
Its fine to be a fan of Anderson Silva, but you're only harming your own credibility with comments saying that Sonnen did 'nothing' for 4 and a half rounds. First off, everybody is different, some fighters mark up really easily, Sonnen and Fitch are both good examples of this. I swear if those two were to be involved in a pillow fight with a couple of schoolgirls they'd come out looking like they'd been in a car crash. I've never seen Anderson marked up at all, and from the amount of strikes that Sonnen landed on him you'd expect to see something... so I'm going to say that he probably has quite durable skin. However if you remember the end of the Silva vs Sonnen fight, Anderson had to be helped to the back after the fight as he had taken a beating on his way to picking up the win.
As for Chael's smack talk - last night was genius. People were already talking about the Sonnen vs Silva rematch, like it or not the last time they fought Silva was a little over 2 minutes away from losing his belt, it was that close. Sonnen is the only person to mount a real challenge to Silva since he joined the UFC, aside from Palhares it was probably the only match it made sense to make. So what does Sonnen do? He adds a whole new level of hype to it, a loser leaves town match? really? It feels like something straight out of the WWE but it works, its already got me hyped and I tell you what... that is going to sell PPV's by the dozen. Even if Chael loses and does leave the UFC it makes perfect sense for him, he hasnt got many years left in him most likely, for a main event he will get what 3% of the PPV? 1.2 million buys at $70 a pop... Easy money.
As for Gulliard, I'm so glad he got taken down a notch, I have never liked him, even before he joined up with Greg Jacksons camp and actually started winning. Lauzon is an extremely dangerous fighter early, kinda like a skilled Phil Baroni... and just like Baroni the more he fades as the fight gos on, but Melvin didnt respect that, and he paid the price. Good.
Soldato
Hear, hear.
Silva v Sonnen II is going to be the biggest fight in UFC history!
Silva v Sonnen II is going to be the biggest fight in UFC history!
Soldato
Until Silva takes on Jon Jones or GSP
but yea cant wait for this one....fan of both but will still be rooting for Silva
but yea cant wait for this one....fan of both but will still be rooting for Silva
Completely agree.
Soldato
I loved how it looked like he wasn't interested in the fight, he just showed up to call out Silva.
Impressed with Chael's performance. To tar him with the "lay and pray" brush is ridiculous, can't wait for round 2 with Silva.
I also think he's hilarious. I get how Americans might not "get" his humour but I'd have thought most of us Brits would.
Impressed with Chael's performance. To tar him with the "lay and pray" brush is ridiculous, can't wait for round 2 with Silva.
I also think he's hilarious. I get how Americans might not "get" his humour but I'd have thought most of us Brits would.
Soldato
Chael will beat Silva next time, I don't see what Silva can do to stop the takedown and keep distance. Unless he was injured or not at 100% last time?!
Soldato
He says he had a rib injury!
Either way I'd love to see another fight between them since Sonnen is the only person I've seen give Silva a decent match!
Just hope Silva doesnt KO Sonnen after 10 seconds with a front kick to the face (ala Vitor Belfort) while he's diving in for a double leg takedown! It's easily done Chael, maybe you shouldnt have put your UFC future on a single fight that could finish in seconds!
Other than that..... WAR SONNEN!!!!
If Chael loses to Silva again he is done in the MW division, much like Franklin was.
Even if he doesn't leave the UFC he will leave MW.
I'd love Chael to win, it mixes up the division a bit. But I just see him getting tapped again. 8 of his 11 losses are submissions and nearly all of them are from guard.
His style is great but when he is going all out, he does leave his arm in for triangles and armbars.
Even if he doesn't leave the UFC he will leave MW.
I'd love Chael to win, it mixes up the division a bit. But I just see him getting tapped again. 8 of his 11 losses are submissions and nearly all of them are from guard.
His style is great but when he is going all out, he does leave his arm in for triangles and armbars.
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Soldato
If Chael loses again then I'd say the whole MW division is done tbh! I mean who else is there that a) Silva has not fought or b) has improved enough to warrant another crack at the title???
Off the top of my head the only 2 guys that were looking even semi-OK against Anderson are Cote and Hendo! (Is Cote even still in the UFC??? and Hendo is aiming at the LHW belt with his title eliminator against Shogun coming up!)
Silva vs Bones Jones at LHW anyone???
*drool....drool...* 
Off the top of my head the only 2 guys that were looking even semi-OK against Anderson are Cote and Hendo! (Is Cote even still in the UFC??? and Hendo is aiming at the LHW belt with his title eliminator against Shogun coming up!)
Silva vs Bones Jones at LHW anyone???
*drool....drool...*
If Chael loses again then I'd say the whole MW division is done tbh! I mean who else is there that a) Silva has not fought or b) has improved enough to warrant another crack at the title???
Off the top of my head the only 2 guys that were looking even semi-OK against Anderson are Cote and Hendo! (Is Cote even still in the UFC??? and Hendo is aiming at the LHW belt with his title eliminator against Shogun coming up!)
Silva vs Bones Jones at LHW anyone???
Dana has said Hendo could get a MW shot if he beats Shogun, not really sure how or why they have given him a LHW fight if he wants to rematch Silva, but hey.
MW is such a weak division you're right there is nobody really left, I'd like to see Palhares try but he doesn't really deserve it.
Crazy Brit fans would argue Bisping, but he hasn't really beaten anyone anywhere near top 5, but again it's someone new rather than a rematch. An hey if Hardy got a shot for doing nothing, why not Bisping.
Finally Mayhem miller if he beats Bisping might be given a go ahead, again not a rematch.
Cote got dropped a long time ago and hasn't been the same since he damaged his knee.
Soldato
Forgot about Bisping & Mayhem - obviously the winner of their fight will be next in line!
Ideal situation for me:
Sonnen beats Silva for MW title to revitalise the division (imagine all the guys that Anderson walked through thinking they could beat Sonnen - some decent matchups there!) and Silva moves to LHW and goes on a tear through the division (Shogun, Evans, Rampage etc) on his way to a superfight against Bones!
Probably wont happen but it would make for a lot of good matchups!
Ideal situation for me:
Sonnen beats Silva for MW title to revitalise the division (imagine all the guys that Anderson walked through thinking they could beat Sonnen - some decent matchups there!) and Silva moves to LHW and goes on a tear through the division (Shogun, Evans, Rampage etc) on his way to a superfight against Bones!
Probably wont happen but it would make for a lot of good matchups!
Soldato
Little harsh imo!
Wasnt Swick in line for a title shot when Hardy beat him?? You have got to give a title shot to anyone who beats a bona-fide number 1 contender!