The Official FIFA 12 Club(11v11)

For the last time this was no boycott, The current line up has several Baguio City players in it but most of us have know each other for 6+ Years

Only Caveman365 and Nick5466 are the players that I do not personally know!

We have created a team that concentrates more on winning than losing, I dont expect everyone to understand our reasons for leaving but Vitae FC is an alternative.

We have played just over 60 games and are pretty much at 2000 points and this is where we left Baguio City at, I cant believe you have threatened players in our new team with dismissals from the league. Its a sad state of affairs.

You have more than enough players in your sqaud to play on so its not as if you can pin any in-activeness on us as you are only just realising we up and left... TWO WHOLE WEEKS!

Stop with the bickering and you can individually ask Vitae FC players for their reason for leaving and I think you will find its only because we know each other.

Im willing to accept applications for the club as we have over 6-8 spaces. This is nothing personal as we want to concentrate more on results than fun... but fun comes free when your winning.

Last night you said most if not all of you left because i was a bad manager, not because u knew each other for 6 years! U was still playing together in this club though. its not as if u was all split up and just decided that the ONLY way to play together was to make a new club.

You went off and "secretly" made a new club, critising me for being a bad manager and critising the beginners in the process. You showed lack of respect to me and others here. You dealt with things in the wrong way. Never voiced your concerns with certain members and never EVER questioned my management skills.

Unlike u, i actually want people to critisie any flaws i have so i can improve myself So u really should have had a discussion with me about my management skills which i am still waiting on further explenations on.

And who have i threatened in the 1v1 league? what a load of crap your talking mate. All i said to YOU and ONLY YOU is that i do not want this to effect the 1v1 league. thats all. what cant u understand about that?

Your making excuses and lies with each post u make.

On friday when we was first talking about clubs u said you joined in another club due to no one in this club playing. You then said if the time comes, would you be allowed to rejoin us!!!!

I then got the impression that ok fair enough you joined a new club due to inactivetly so thats fine and dont blame you as things been quiet. I then find out later from you that not only YOU joined another club but so did 5-6 of the active members of this club!

Now how could you originally say that no one is playing clubs when what you did was rally up your mates and upted and left behind our back? You lied stating how you left due to hardly anyone playing games. Of course hardly anyone would play club games if you TOOK out the 5-6 ACTIVE members who was!

You then make excuses of leaving by saying first and foremost you are sick and tired of playing with beginners? i then asked you last night "why did u not tell me" And you replied, because im the manager :rolleyes:

I then ask, so what?, You replied, well you are part of the problem :rolleyes: I then ask again, what did i do wrong? do i hog the ball? always select striker role? You said "no, its not fifa related" You then go further and say because the TV in my background was loud and how i never came on at the beginning "wtf?" You then said i am not managing the club right? i then ask you to go further and you COMPLETELY dodged the bullet:rolleyes:

And now i am threatening you and your mates on the 1v1 league:rolleyes: What next? what other lies are you going to say?


So if eMP3Danie can answer these questions then we can better understand his reasoning:

  1. Why did you lie and say no one was playing clubs when what ou did was took out the active guys and created a new one? You plus yoru mates could have still bene playing together in thisclub
  2. Who have i threated in your club about the 1v1 league and what was my exact words i said to them?
  3. What makes me a terrible manager?
  4. Why diddnt you voice your concerns about the beginners instead of boycotting the club?
  5. Why did you ask me if you wanted to come back and join the club last friday when we was first discussing clubs?
 
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My only criticism of jonney would be he sometimes takes ages to reply to me on origin. Otherwise now that I know him a bit better, he seems like a nice guy.

I am one of those people who left the club also. I left because every time I came the past week no one was playing/another member had invited me for a trail at his club. Also found out about lots of regulars leaving too. I did out of respect contact jonney on origin, but as usual hehe he did not respond for ages so I thought I will join and he would understand.

Pretty much just after I joined jonney replied, lol. Had a nice reasonable chat with him. He never said anything out of order to me and understood my reasoning.

I also think i am one of those people mentioned eMP3Danie that spoilt it for others as I did not get an invite either. Though I mainly played striker position I also played defender a bit and midfield. I was always open to playing diferrent roles, most of the time I was just told to play as striker so I did. My game to goal scoring ratio was just was good as anyone else's. Though I do admit not being as good player as shaynoc and emp3danie, but that comes with time. They play a lot more so naturally they have more experience.

I am not out to hurt/upset anyone, so I will just agree with what umboma said.
 
My only criticism of jonney would be he sometimes takes ages to reply to me on origin. Otherwise now that I know him a bit better, he seems like a nice guy.

I've lost count how many time's i've contacted him on orign when he is online to see if he would like a league game, with no reply. :D
 
OK.. I suppose ill give you the details as you can't seem stop acting like a school girl.

Talk came about of forming a new club with friends and regulars as there was little respect through the club, No one has a problem with anyone at all.

This has been blown out of proportion simply due to one man feeling betrayed and he is obviously hurting but the fact is that it has taken him 2 weeks to realise some of "His" players moved on in search of greener pastures.

I didn't exactly call you a bad manager now did I... What I said was you didn't manage, all you did is show up. By example I asked you to provide me with manager status so while your not on we could have some order. You actually gave a manager spot to someone that clearly said he didn't want it.

You constantly upset people with your super loud TV and your incessant match starting with out everyone being ready and to top it of you simply went AFK during ready up sessions, this sir ****ed people off and it isn't as if you weren't told.

There was no order within the club I had to literally grab it by its neck and tell people what the situation was. Several occasions after a match some players would without notice jump in peoples places during match transition and this ****ed off people too.

This would also lower the tone and Voice Comms became a place to **** people off and the mood became sour as people didn't want to upset other people by telling the person how bad they really are.

So instead of causing an upset talk started of a new club with same players just the most active players would have control over what was going on.

We now have a good solid club with no arguments and no one to blame for losses. No one wanted this to turn sour but seeing as you wont let it go then this post has to happen.

Ill answer your questions but I feel as if you're taking this like a child would...

Why did you lie and say no one was playing clubs when what ou did was took out the active guys and created a new one? You plus yoru mates could have still bene playing together in this club

I did not say people were not playing clubs. I said the active players were being pushed out by greedy players who just wanted the striking position, also the fact you started searching for games without players readying up.

Who have i threated in your club about the 1v1 league and what was my exact words i said to them?

You quite openly threatened to boot Nick5466 for "bad sportsmanship"

What makes me a terrible manager?

You didn't take charge at any time and you disappeared several times during start ups and games. Your TV was way too loud and you never listened to anyone who gave you input. Please... don't ask for an example as I don't have a personal one.

Why diddnt you voice your concerns about the beginners instead of boycotting the club?

You wouldn't of listened anyway... Try turning off the TV! I have no issues with beginners as it was the lack of command I personally had an issue with. And no we didn't boycott your team. 6 players got tired off the nonsense.

Why did you ask me if you wanted to come back and join the club last friday when we was first discussing clubs?

I did not request to "Come Back" at all! Once I quit.. I quit..

I think I accidently left once when I had an issue with my pro but that was weeks ago.
 
I've lost count how many time's i've contacted him on orign when he is online to see if he would like a league game, with no reply. :D

Lol. Well at least I know it's not just me :D

Perhaps you should use the busy/away status on origin so people know you are not there jonney mate :)
 
End of the day we all just want to enjoy a game and have fun. Some wanted a more "must win" approach while others didn't care, that's obviously the issue here.

With so many good games to play at the moment it's sad i couldn't be on more, got minecraft, BF3 soon, l4d, supcom2 and the occasional flutter on CSS to play as well as FIFA so it's obviously too hard for me to put in the time others seem to expect, perhaps if more of us were on more often this wouldn't have happened? though perhaps i was just left out as one of the ones who weren't good enough to cut it? No offense taken if that's the case, I'm not the most active fifa player in the world after all.

Ideally i need a team that have regulars that don't mind me dropping in now and again, that's what i was happy we had at baguio, with our regulars gone though it makes it hard to get a game when I'm free/wanting to play :(
 
Actually... No Bios everyone made the cut and if they wanted in the had to ask... This wasnt a FU to Baguio City we just wanted a decent game with little changes...

Mattyk80, TranceNove, MrBios, Vetta, Matthewwhite to name a few I would love you all playing in our team but the players needed a say in what was happening.
 
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OK.. I suppose ill give you the details as you can't seem stop acting like a school girl.

Talk came about of forming a new club with friends and regulars as there was little respect through the club, No one has a problem with anyone at all.

This has been blown out of proportion simply due to one man feeling betrayed and he is obviously hurting but the fact is that it has taken him 2 weeks to realise some of "His" players moved on in search of greener pastures.

Sorry for being busy organising a league for u and others to play in. my bad. Do i need to be on all the time for you to play club matches?

I didn't exactly call you a bad manager now did I... What I said was you didn't manage, all you did is show up. By example I asked you to provide me with manager status so while your not on we could have some order. You actually gave a manager spot to someone that clearly said he didn't want it.

I gave the spot to the most active member yes. Nothing wrong with doing that. he then gave you management spot so end of the day, you got your wish and was manager

You constantly upset people with your super loud TV and your incessant match starting with out everyone being ready and to top it of you simply went AFK during ready up sessions, this sir ****ed people off and it isn't as if you weren't told.

Uhh? how wa si starting a match without anyone ready? i was hardly the captain of the team and only the captain starts the match! About the TV, i apologize, i cant do much about that other then not use my mic at all or minimum

There was no order within the club I had to literally grab it by its neck and tell people what the situation was. Several occasions after a match some players would without notice jump in peoples places during match transition and this ****ed off people too.

This is BS. time and time again in the mumble chat i told people to stay in positions, try and play keep ball etc etc etc. I also reminded people to share positions as well. I believe at one point ZERO was our goalkeeper and i kept asking him if he wanted to change positions. even told everyone else to make room for Zero and let him choose his position first and he said he doesnt want to and is happy to play as a GK. fine example of bad management :rolleyes:

This would also lower the tone and Voice Comms became a place to **** people off and the mood became sour as people didn't want to upset other people by telling the person how bad they really are.

Thats your fault. i told u before and ohers that if someone is taking the P, tell them. otherwise what is the point in using mumble then? Where here to play and improve as a team and in order to do that i need YOU and everyone to chip in. Cant expect me to see everything and be the ONLY person that critisises someone.. Doesnt work like that in real life. You see real players onfield slaging a fellow team mate if he aint pulling his socks off.

So instead of causing an upset talk started of a new club with same players just the most active players would have control over what was going on.

Again, you HAD control in this club. You HAD the ability to tell people to to put there socks off yet you stay hidden and just upted and left without confronting these people and ALSO telling me about it.

We now have a good solid club with no arguments and no one to blame for losses. No one wanted this to turn sour but seeing as you wont let it go then this post has to happen.

You turned it sour by the way you handled things. You never cameto me with issues. None of you did. thats the issue. You handled it poor. never gave this club a chance to improve.

Ill answer your questions but I feel as if you're taking this like a child would...



I did not say people were not playing clubs. I said the active players were being pushed out by greedy players who just wanted the striking position, also the fact you started searching for games without players readying up.

Well, as i said before, YOU and others NEVER said a single word all kept quiet. Never said a thing to me because you was apparantly scared to do so because im part of the problem :rolleyes: How would u know how i would react if u dont say? I guarantee you, Had you and your mates come to me and tell me these issues and my management skills in question, i would have sorted it out but nope. you bailed out

You quite openly threatened to boot Nick5466 for "bad sportsmanship"

And if you bothered reading the 1v1 league, you will know it has NOTHING to do with clubs and purely because he quitted on purpose during a match i played against him. please read that thread before spouting nonsense. Had it been a none club member quitting on purpose, i would have still dealt with the matter the exact same way. Again, as i warned you, DO NOT drag teh 1v1 in to this discussion as its an complete enitre different entity.

You didn't take charge at any time and you disappeared several times during start ups and games. Your TV was way too loud and you never listened to anyone who gave you input. Please... don't ask for an example as I don't have a personal one.


well i have already commented on this and yes my TV was loud and i apologize for it. See, im not a bad fellow and i admit my faults. A shame u bailed out before telling your concerns.



You wouldn't of listened anyway... Try turning off the TV! I have no issues with beginners as it was the lack of command I personally had an issue with. And no we didn't boycott your team. 6 players got tired off the nonsense.

No you boycoted it from what i can see. never confronted me with any maters and just left. And the above comment says it all "You wouldnt of listened anyway" proves my point that you nevr even trie. Watch me in the 1v1 league on how i will listen to improvements an suggestions in that league. Already planning to split the league next season due to peoples request. Yup i sure as dont listen to others :rolleyes:

I did not request to "Come Back" at all! Once I quit.. I quit..

Maybe i mistaken you from someone else but it was definitely someone from your club

I think I accidently left once when I had an issue with my pro but that was weeks ago.

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Actually... No Bios everyone made the cut and if they wanted in the had to ask... This wasnt a FU to Baguio City we just wanted a decent game with little changes...

Mattyk80, TranceNove, MrBios, Vetta, Matthewwhite to name a few I would love you all playing in our team but the players needed a say in what was happening.

You had your say, all of you did but you said sweet F.A.
 
Actually... No Bios everyone made the cut and if they wanted in the had to ask... This wasnt a FU to Baguio City we just wanted a decent game with little changes...

Mattyk80, TranceNove, MrBios, Vetta, Matthewwhite to name a few I would love you all playing in our team but the players needed a say in what was happening.

For the time being i feel i have a duty to stick with baguio and hope it gets back on it's feet but if for any reason this fails i'd still love to play with you guys, it's a pitty you can't be in more than one team really :p

With battlefield 3 coming out this week though i'll likely be dead to the world for a while anyway :D
 
Right ok, i bought fifa 12, it loses connection every single game, ive tried 20 matches not one has completed. ive lost or gained no points, still says 0 matches. Just reminds me why i always avoid ea. they are crap.
 
Right ok, i bought fifa 12, it loses connection every single game, ive tried 20 matches not one has completed. ive lost or gained no points, still says 0 matches. Just reminds me why i always avoid ea. they are crap.

You're the first person i've heard of to have that problem and that includes the EA forums, so before you blame EA look for other people with the same issue as the issue may well be your fault.

EDIT: not trying to defend EA as i hate them too, but perhaps you're jumping the gun a little on the assumptions.
 
Mate every single person on my friends list has the problem. Ive had the game 2 days and not completed a single game.

Do all the people on your friends list share the same connection like at a uni or something? I've not had any problems myself although not played for a few days now. Do you have problems on other multiplayer games?
 
No mate, no one shares my connection. My internet never goes off.

All your ports open on your pc? Try rebooting your router. WHat router and ISP u using? i am with BeThere and use to use the bebox which gave me lots of problems so i switched routers to a netgear and so far has been solid
 
Im with Bethere mate and bebox too. Is that why im getting problems with fifa? i dont have another router to try. can you add me on steam for some help please. cabbage4321
 
Im with Bethere mate and bebox too. Is that why im getting problems with fifa? i dont have another router to try. can you add me on steam for some help please. cabbage4321

That is exactly why you are having problems actually :)

I was with bethere and O2 and their routers just block out stuff. Not good for gaming. Some online games worked fine, some not so much. Had to use a diferent router.

Now I am with talktalk, no issues at all :)
 
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