**** The Official Google Pixel 4 Thread ****

Mine arrived about an hour ago but don't really have time to set it up. It's sat on my desk looking at me. :( Probably won't get to do that till evening either
 
I wouldn't categorically say that, he did say he would be one of the few to pick it up over other phones while most people should look elsewhere. Still a great review as usual. The 60hz/90hz trick Google uses to save some battery life feels a bit shady, they charge extra for that display afterall.

He was quite obviously disappointed by it. He essentially said he wouldn't recommend it to 99% of people because it's overpriced, bad battery. He made a clear comparison that the iPhone 11 provides better value in the same areas that the Pixel doesn't.

Its not a trick, its how it works, its just not bumping it up to 90Hz quickly enough.
 
Basically if they'd left out Soli and face unlock, and used the space to increase the batteries to 3500mah / 4200 mah, they'd have a much nicer-looking phone that is far more usable for far more people.
 
Unless the 4xl gets some seriously nice Black Friday deals I think I’ll be skipping a phone upgrade this year altogether. The only phone that’s really tempting me now is the iPhone 11 pro max but just can not justify the cost.

Same.... unfortunately I *need* a new phone as my 2XL is basically on the verge of being unusable now due to all its problems.

I actually went ahead and got a 0% credit card for 21 months for purchases with the express intention of buying an iPhone 11 Pro but I woke up one morning thinking "£1,200+ on a phone - that's nuts"... so I haven't gone through with it...

I suspect a discount will be available at black Friday. But as I said before getting a Chromebook free now might also represent a good discount if you either sell or use it.

The iPhone 11pro is a beast. I just can't switch. I use an iPhone for work and it's great in many areas. However I just can't switch it feels like I would be swapping the team I love and support for a rival :D

My loss hey

I'm using an iPhone XR at the moment, which someone has been kind enough to loan me for a bit. Honestly, it is really good, but I kind of feel the same way as you. Objectively its a brilliant thing, but somehow, as with all other iPhone's I've owned, I just don't 'love it' that much. I kind of feel like its the VW Golf of phones. Crushingly competent and brilliant on most objective levels, but they're also everywhere, and... just kinda..... dull? And I really don't understand me feeling this way either - it's a phone FGS, a tool, these things stopped being exciting years ago, so I just can't understand it.

I wish they'd used a larger battery :(
If the screen time is bad now, imagine what it's going to be like in 12 months once it starts to degrade.
I've had my 2XL for over 18 months and my screen time has dropped to about the same as these new phones, around 5-6hrs

Indeed. The last time I used my 2XL it was down to 59% with 1hr09 SOT by lunchtime. If the standard 4 is bad now, then in 2 years, it'll be virtually useless.

Battery life has always been rubbish on most modern phones to be fair, my 3XL was fully charged at 8:15 this morning, now it's 10:05 and it's on 85% - all I have done is send a few whatsapp messages (not media) and made one brief phone call, hardly taxing it. But this is just something I come to expect, given chargers are pretty much everywhere, your desk, your home etc.

Not on the iPhone's nowadays though, this XR has been a game changer for battery life. Same sort of usage as you, and I've used this XR a moderate amount - still on 99%. The lowest I've managed to get it in one day of heavy use is around 50% and I was *really* hammering it. This makes the performance of the latest Pixel's look absolutely pathetic by comparison.

He was quite obviously disappointed by it. He essentially said he wouldn't recommend it to 99% of people because it's overpriced, bad battery. He made a clear comparison that the iPhone 11 provides better value in the same areas that the Pixel doesn't.

Its not a trick, its how it works, its just not bumping it up to 90Hz quickly enough.

I haven't watched this video yet, but I will be... but as someone else said on one of their videos, it wouldn't be a Google phone if it didn't have some inexplicable bugs. This was exactly my experience with the 2XL throughout ownership and it makes me think I could never rely on these phones.

Such a shame as the concept of it is EVERYTHING i want in a phone, but the execution is, as usual, terrible. I'm losing faith that I'm ever going to get that ideal phone for me - indeed the iPhone 11 Pro is the closest yet but as I said above I just don't completely gel with them, and when they cost this much, then it's important you really enjoy them, but then there's no Android phones really doing it for me at the minute either.

Looks like I can expect to end up owning a phone that does the job but I'm not that interested in, so probably a free iPhone 11 or a OnePlus or maybe see what the Galaxy S11 brings to the table.
 
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Only concern (battery aside) so far are the speakers didn't seem that great. Not a problem for many, I'm sure, but I do like to play my podcasts on the loud speakers. Only a real quick go on YouTube to test them though.
 
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Only concern (battery aside) so far are the speakers didn't seem that great. Not a problem for many, I'm sure, but I do like to play my podcasts on the loud speakers. Only a real quick go on YouTube to test them though.


Does it feel good in the hand?

Ladies you know the procedure...
 
I'm using an iPhone XR at the moment, which someone has been kind enough to loan me for a bit. Honestly, it is really good, but I kind of feel the same way as you. Objectively its a brilliant thing, but somehow, as with all other iPhone's I've owned, I just don't 'love it' that much. I kind of feel like its the VW Golf of phones. Crushingly competent and brilliant on most objective levels, but they're also everywhere, and... just kinda..... dull? And I really don't understand me feeling this way either - it's a phone FGS, a tool, these things stopped being exciting years ago, so I just can't understand it.

I have the iPhone XS and your words are a perfect description of how I feel about it and how my time with it has gone. I don't love it, but it's a real wrench to imagine how I'll do without it. I've spent about the last 10 months looking for an exciting Android that would be so good I'd have no choice other than to change. Unfortunately for me, the Pixel 4 isn't that phone.
 
Phones are for running apps, I don't get this being excited about a phone.

I stick with iPhone's because they work well, they are supported by everything and because I'm deep in the ecosystem, I own a Mac, an Apple Watch and multiple HomePod's.

The only thing that had been lacking with iPhone's recently was the camera and they fixed that and then added massively better battery life this year.
 
Phones are for running apps, I don't get this being excited about a phone.

Exactly which is why I said I didn’t understand why I felt that way.

I suspect it might be something to do with the lack of customisation options but otherwise everything else you say is actually true but it’s a feeling that nonetheless I can’t quite shake off.
 
Not often I go into a phone shop these days (let alone twice) but had to get another look at the Pixel. The screen really is amazing.

If it's as good as that next year then I could definitely see a move back over to Android being on the cards.
 
You could apply that logic to almost everything, cars are from going to A to B, why get excited by a car?. Whatever floats your boat.

I also share the iPhone sentiments, having used an 11 Pro for ast week I agree it's a brilliant all round phone but I feel it just lacks character and there's more interesting devices out there.
 
I think my issue with a lot of Android phones is they just seem to keep throwing features out there and seeing what sticks, in screen fingerprint readers, pop out cameras etc, then you get issues like what Samsung are currently experiencing.

Some people may find Apple playing it safe boring and unexciting, but at least things tend to work, like Apple weren’t the first to fingerprint readers but the one on the 5S worked amazingly compared to ones before it.

Same for Face unlock.
 
I think my issue with a lot of Android phones is they just seem to keep throwing features out there and seeing what sticks, in screen fingerprint readers, pop out cameras etc, then you get issues like what Samsung are currently experiencing.

Some people may find Apple playing it safe boring and unexciting, but at least things tend to work, like Apple weren’t the first to fingerprint readers but the one on the 5S worked amazingly compared to ones before it.

Same for Face unlock.
eh? why do you view android phones as seeing what sticks when they add things like fingerprint readers, yet when iphone did it, but now don't do it, it's not the same thing? it's progress? what was that revolutionary feature iphones had where you would push the screen harder called?

I agree with MKB. a finger print reader, bigger battery, and a smaller forhead and it'd been an easy choice. it probably still will be my choice as there's nothing I will want before january and hoping to have a new phone by then, but i doubt it'll keep it more than a year.
 
eh? why do you view android phones as seeing what sticks when they add things like fingerprint readers, yet when iphone did it, but now don't do it, it's not the same thing? it's progress? what was that revolutionary feature iphones had where you would push the screen harder called?

I agree with MKB. a finger print reader, bigger battery, and a smaller forhead and it'd been an easy choice. it probably still will be my choice as there's nothing I will want before january and hoping to have a new phone by then, but i doubt it'll keep it more than a year.
I specifically said in screen readers, they are slower, less secure and seem to be because manufacturers either can’t get the components or can’t work out how to do proper secure face unlock, only Apple and Google have managed it so far.

3D Touch was fine but it made screens more complicated to produce and couldn’t scale to the iPads, they retained the majority of the functionality in software.

Do we honestly believe stuff like motorised pop up cameras are progression and what most phones will have in the future?
 
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