How do you get on with the Zoom? I'm often wanting something to record rehearsals and gigs other than a phone.
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How do you get on with the Zoom? I'm often wanting something to record rehearsals and gigs other than a phone.
Associate
It's pretty decent, have used it in that scenario before with it set up in the middle of the room and just jamming for a bit. Eats through batteries if you record at 96/24 or use the phantom power however.
Associate
Update on mine, went to Homebase, bought some finishing strips and some metal angles. The result:
Get some of the nice artwork up on show.
Get some of the nice artwork up on show.
Man of Honour
Update on mine, went to Homebase, bought some finishing strips and some metal angles. The result:
Get some of the nice artwork up on show.
I'm sharing that in another thread if you don't mind.
Associate
Sure, can I have a link? 
Man of Honour
Sure, can I have a link?
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18723228
Part of the thread is about somebody putting CD covers on their wall
Caporegime
My newest acquisition. Picked up today. Tomorrow the fun begins integrating it with Ableton Live. Such sounds though. The supersaw still sounds as exhilarating as it did 20 years ago
Associate
This, please post :3
Caporegime
The JP-8000 wasn't for me in the end. I'm redoing my home studio and it just has no place, so I've banged it on the bay. Should break even on it. It's in perfect working order. Sad fact is, that plugins nowadays (even free ones) have just caught up and overtaken it too much. The arpeggiator used to be a massive feature, but now, its patterns are dated and too few. Shame. It used to such a thing of awe.
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I finally got around to setting up the Overhead PZM mics Ive had fro over 15 years.I cut the Jacks off and soldered XLR's on the end. I also converted the 1.5v battery to a 9v battery.
Here is a clip of the sound I'm getting so far
2 x PZM on the ceiling (overheads)
1 x SM57 snare
1x Shure Beta 52A Kick Drum Mic
I don't think I need to mic the toms up right now..I'm struggling getting a decent sound..I'm just getting a boomy mess. So I reduced the tom and floor tom mic down for this sound file.
Feedback please. (forgive the playing its me without a click track...I'm rusty
)
https://soundcloud.com/easy-rider-91223276/easy-drum-test
P.S Its rock hard recording live drums in a converted garage....
Here is a clip of the sound I'm getting so far
2 x PZM on the ceiling (overheads)
1 x SM57 snare
1x Shure Beta 52A Kick Drum Mic
I don't think I need to mic the toms up right now..I'm struggling getting a decent sound..I'm just getting a boomy mess. So I reduced the tom and floor tom mic down for this sound file.
Feedback please. (forgive the playing its me without a click track...I'm rusty
)https://soundcloud.com/easy-rider-91223276/easy-drum-test
P.S Its rock hard recording live drums in a converted garage....
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Caporegime
It does sound a bit muddy. I cant really give advice on what you should do as I know diddly squat about recording drums, but I can tell you what I hear and it sounds muddy. Like you're recording in a phonebox. It just doesn't sound tight enough. I'd like to hear the track with some post processing reverb, and maybe compression to try and improve the attack times.
Man of Honour
You're right, that is a boomy mess.
The mic's are more than capable (industry standard) so you need to look at:
1) The tuning of your drums which is so important. I can't help you here but every 3 months a friend comes to one of our gigs and for a pint he tunes up the drum kit and the difference is staggering sometimes. The bass drum must be raised up off the floor at the front and no blankets inside it.
What does the kit sound like if you get somebody else playing it? If it doesn't sound good then you can't polish a ****. When my drummers hit their kit just on the stage they sound superb and then I get busy with the mic'ing for the PA. Depending on the venue my drummer no 2 has to put dampeners on his Ludwig kit but we never have that problem with drummer no 1s Yamaha kit.
2) Snare and tom mic's should be two fingers distance from the head for optimum mic'ing but experimentation can also bring great results.
Mic'ing on the bottom head can also make a big difference.
3) When you've sorted the above then experiment with tone & reverb on the mixer. Not too much reverb because once on you can't take it off so always best to put it on at mix down if each drum is recorded separate.
The mic's are more than capable (industry standard) so you need to look at:
1) The tuning of your drums which is so important. I can't help you here but every 3 months a friend comes to one of our gigs and for a pint he tunes up the drum kit and the difference is staggering sometimes. The bass drum must be raised up off the floor at the front and no blankets inside it.
What does the kit sound like if you get somebody else playing it? If it doesn't sound good then you can't polish a ****. When my drummers hit their kit just on the stage they sound superb and then I get busy with the mic'ing for the PA. Depending on the venue my drummer no 2 has to put dampeners on his Ludwig kit but we never have that problem with drummer no 1s Yamaha kit.
2) Snare and tom mic's should be two fingers distance from the head for optimum mic'ing but experimentation can also bring great results.
Mic'ing on the bottom head can also make a big difference.
3) When you've sorted the above then experiment with tone & reverb on the mixer. Not too much reverb because once on you can't take it off so always best to put it on at mix down if each drum is recorded separate.
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Caporegime
Seriously, I've seen a snare mic'd up top, bottom and side!
Man of Honour
Me too but the worst was about 10 years ago at a live gig.
I asked the 'Engineer' (man helping band) if he could turn up the snare a bit but when he did the bass drum went up, so he asked me to help but I couldn't get nowhere.
At half time I went to the kit and the snare drum mic was next to the bass drum facing up at the snare that was about 2 foot away
Caporegime
Ha ha what a plum. A side snare mic should be about 1 inch from the rim. 2 foot LMAO!
Caporegime
The snare and hats sound a bit better, but the bass drum still sounds devoid of any oomph and gets lost in the mix. What mic are you using for the bass drum?
Actually, I only listened to the first one. The second one sounds a lot better.
Actually, I only listened to the first one. The second one sounds a lot better.
yeah agree the easy test 1 sounds wooly...
I've stripped the second one back - easy test 2
easy test 2 is just 1 x PZM nothing else. The bass drum is lost but nothing is miking it.... I'm starting from scratch.
I'll record it again this time with just 1 x PZM and the Bass drum mic...
Thanks for the feedback..I'll get there with a decent drum sound we all like
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Think I need to upgrade the Overheads...The PZM's have been with me for years and wanted to try them before I make a decision. They are good but lack depth. I have I need to invest in some decent Overheads.
2 x PZM on the ceiling (overheads)
1 x SM57 snare
1x SM57 Tom
1x SM57 Floor Tom
1x Shure Beta 52A Kick Drum Mic
These mics are fed into a Roland Octa Capture audio interface and recording in Pro Tools 12.5
I have been looking at either the 2 x Rode NT5 Stereo Pair £229, 2 X Audio-Technica 20 Series AT2035 £270 and 2 x Audio-Technica ATM 450 £320
2 x PZM on the ceiling (overheads)
1 x SM57 snare
1x SM57 Tom
1x SM57 Floor Tom
1x Shure Beta 52A Kick Drum Mic
These mics are fed into a Roland Octa Capture audio interface and recording in Pro Tools 12.5
I have been looking at either the 2 x Rode NT5 Stereo Pair £229, 2 X Audio-Technica 20 Series AT2035 £270 and 2 x Audio-Technica ATM 450 £320