*** The official HTC One S thread ***

I like to test phones Nexus18 :p, my initial thoughts so far are its sweet, the screen resolution was never going to be as good as the One X which I knew, and the colours/blacks look better on this so no surprise again.

Performance wise I am surprised I never thought this would feel snappier than the X and it does and Sense doesn't really lag on this , same with the video side it seems much smoother on this, all in so far nice phone and the perfect size, I can easily text one handed with this but not the X and this was one of the major things for me and this is much louder phone out of the two, will see how it goes with more use and battery life.

I thought you would have gone for the S3? Or can't you get over the looks/size? :p
 
I like to test phones Nexus18 :p

haha :D Figured that :p

my initial thoughts so far are its sweet, the screen resolution was never going to be as good as the One X which I knew, and the colours/blacks look better on this so no surprise again.

Performance wise I am surprised I never thought this would feel snappier than the X and it does and Sense doesn't really lag on this , same with the video side it seems much smoother on this, all in so far nice phone and the perfect size, I can easily text one handed with this but not the X and this was one of the major things for me and this is much louder phone out of the two, will see how it goes with more use and battery life.

Nice, glad to hear you are pleased with it so far :)

You should be pretty impressed with the battery life, especially coming from the X :p
 
@Nexus18 The anandtech link made for interesting reading Mate, thanks for that! The One S held up very well against the American S3's as you said it just goes to show that HTC did very good job optimising Sense to work well with the S4 chip.

I look forward to the next part of the review when Anandtech get hold of the European (International version) of the S3 and run tests against the S4 chip that will complete the picture. I'm sure that the One S will still hold it's own though!

Interesting set of pictures with the red flower, showing the different levels of red that you can produce if you mess around with the settings. It just goes to show that if you mess around with the saturation levels you can get very drastic results!

The cat's very cute, she looks really sweet...is she the one that's scared of TC?

@Richy888 As Nexus18 stated the One XL will not be released in the UK and you will have to import it. It's about to be released in Germany via Vodafone and other carriers in late June / July so I'm sure you'll be able to pick it up from the Rainforest site in Germany.

I'm very interested in the One XL but only if it comes with 32Gb memory not 16Gb as I carry a lot of media with me because of my regular and very long commutes!

I'm keeping an eye on Rainforest Germany, if I see anything soon, I'll let you know.

Great photos there Sarge78, very arty in particular the black and white one!
 
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Indeed! Really couldn't believe that the S4 gs 3 fell behind the XL/S especially as everyone always says that touchwiz is much better optimized and lighter than sense :p


I must give it a proper go sometime, changing the contrast, white balance etc. settings manually and see how much better I can get photos to look.


Yup that is her :( Has bumps down her lower sides from fighting with TC :(
 
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Indeed! Really couldn't believe that the S4 gs 3 fell behind the XL/S especially as everyone always says that touchwiz is much better optimized and lighter than sense :p


I must give it a proper go sometime, changing the contrast, white balance etc. settings manually and see how much better I can get photos to look.


Yup that is her :( Has bumps down her lower sides from fighting with TC :(

It just goes to show you how superb the S4 chip is and inconjunction with great programming the One S is up there with the best of them. That's what makes the One S a belter of a phone! :D

Consumers were duped into all the quad core hype and that Tegra 3 was the bees knees. However those in the know were always going to settle for the One S because of the superior chip and it's living well up to the hype!

I've managed to weed out my music on the One S and I have 4.68 Gb free! Which should be enough to put a few more TV episodes on and a couple of films I should have 2Gb free which isn't bad.

Ahh bless her, no wonder she's weary of TC :( That's why she stays clear of him, one fight too many :(
 
It just goes to show you how superb the S4 chip is and inconjunction with great programming the One S is up there with the best of them. That's what makes the One S a belter of a phone! :D

Consumers were duped into all the quad core hype and that Tegra 3 was the bees knees. However those in the know were always going to settle for the One S because of the superior chip and it's living well up to the hype!

I've managed to weed out my music on the One S and I have 4.68 Gb free! Which should be enough to put a few more TV episodes on and a couple of films I should have 2Gb free which isn't bad.

This is the stupid thing though, what's more important to the vast majority of people, the chip, or the screen?

Most people will likely never even know the name of the chip in their phone, or worse still, that it even has one!

I don't like the implication that if you didn't get the One S you aren't "in the know", I certainly am in the know yet didn't get the One S because the screen isn't good enough. It's a step backwards from the Galaxy Nexus.

I don't think it's all that wise to use the CPU as a marketing thing, even if it is quad-core. Samsung have put a quad-core in the S3 and they don't mention it in any of the adverts I've seen on TV. They're catching on to what Apple do, but the advert still isn't great. The HTC advert is utterly dire as well.
 
Think this phone is faulty , every so often it goes mad and vibrates and the screens move about on there own, then after its finished the touch buttons at bottom don't work.
 
This is the stupid thing though, what's more important to the vast majority of people, the chip, or the screen?

Most people will likely never even know the name of the chip in their phone, or worse still, that it even has one!

I don't like the implication that if you didn't get the One S you aren't "in the know", I certainly am in the know yet didn't get the One S because the screen isn't good enough. It's a step backwards from the Galaxy Nexus.

I don't think it's all that wise to use the CPU as a marketing thing, even if it is quad-core. Samsung have put a quad-core in the S3 and they don't mention it in any of the adverts I've seen on TV. They're catching on to what Apple do, but the advert still isn't great. The HTC advert is utterly dire as well.

I should've made myself clear HTC marketed the One X as a quad core phone with all the bells and whistles. Yes the screen is superior and it's the flagship but having had both the One X and One S at the same time I can tell you that despite the "inferior" screen the One S is the better phone.

Those who stated the One S screen was inferior were comparing it with the One X at the time during the MWC and yes side by side it's inferior. I've bought every high end Android phone by that's been released on the market by saving hard but those slating the One S screen didn't put me off. I decided to wait until I saw one in the flesh and as I and many others have stated before it's not as bad as some people have made it out to be infact it's been a pleasant surprise to me.

Most of us don't have the money to buy every phone that comes out on the market unlike you Robbo :p so when buying a phone the consumer will partake in research be it on the internet or ask those who are in the know.

HTC and Samsung have a lot to learn in terms of marketing and should take a leaf out of Apples and even Amazon's book (Kindle ads are great).

Still over 9 million pre orders for the S3 means that Samsung is doing something right!
 
It just goes to show you how superb the S4 chip is and inconjunction with great programming the One S is up there with the best of them. That's what makes the One S a belter of a phone! :D

Consumers were duped into all the quad core hype and that Tegra 3 was the bees knees. However those in the know were always going to settle for the One S because of the superior chip and it's living well up to the hype!

Indeed!

Although in some ways agree with Robbo about the "in the know" part, however, I agree with you at the same time :D

People will either value the screen more like Robbo and others, where as others will value the hardware more, obviously if the screen was dreadful then it wouldn't even be worth considering the S, but the screen is great and better than the IPS on the X in some ways, which makes the 720P res not as tempting overall i.e. blacks and vibrant colours and more power efficient when you have darker colours, again obviously some aren't keen on AMOLED and much prefer IPS/LCD based screens though.

I've managed to weed out my music on the One S and I have 4.68 Gb free! Which should be enough to put a few more TV episodes on and a couple of films I should have 2Gb free which isn't bad.

Yeah, the storage really isn't a problem, you just need to take a little time every night or 2 or 3 :p to delete things and copy and paste what you want etc. only takes 5-10 minutes to do :)

Ahh bless her, no wonder she's weary of TC :( That's why she stays clear of him, one fight too many :(

She doesn't like him at all :( Every time you go near the bumps she just tenses up around there and sort of looks at you to say "don't touch me there it hurts" :p :(

This is the stupid thing though, what's more important to the vast majority of people, the chip, or the screen?

Most people will likely never even know the name of the chip in their phone, or worse still, that it even has one!

I don't like the implication that if you didn't get the One S you aren't "in the know", I certainly am in the know yet didn't get the One S because the screen isn't good enough. It's a step backwards from the Galaxy Nexus.

I don't think it's all that wise to use the CPU as a marketing thing, even if it is quad-core. Samsung have put a quad-core in the S3 and they don't mention it in any of the adverts I've seen on TV. They're catching on to what Apple do, but the advert still isn't great. The HTC advert is utterly dire as well.

Yeah I can see your point as well Robbo, for a lot of people the screen is very important, however, the screen on the S is great as well and despite it being a step backwards from the GN, GS 3, X etc. however, when ever a chip like the S4 brings more to the table than just a sharper and larger screen i.e. the battery life, the "coolness" of the chip, the performance (which is noticeable at the minute) then these factors in some ways make up for the lack of 720P res. and people who have moved from the X to the S have not missed the X screen at all due to the S4 chip much like Jabbs has said so far, he knew that the screen wasn't going to be as good, however, he has mentioned that the mobile is faster and video recording etc. seems smoother and from the rest that he has said, he seems to be enjoying the phone more than the X? Much like Stoosh and many other people who have moved from the X to the S have also said the same about not missing the X screen (although they originally moved due to the size) and are enjoying the mobile more due to speed etc. which is brought by the S4 chip.



At the end of the day it comes down to the screen (better overall for things like web browsing, films etc.) VS S4 (better overall for battery life, performance and "coolness" etc.).

If the S had been using the old gen chip i.e. S3 with a 720P screen from the start, I don't think I would have got the mobile, I would have still considered it, but I would either gone with the GN or the GS 2, most likely the GS 2 at the time (due to the better hardware etc.), however, if I had to choose now, the GN due to getting jellybean pretty soon and being stock android so not having to root and flash just to get rid of touchwiz etc. :p :D



And indeed another area where Samsung are copying apple and failing miserably with their marketing "designed for humans"................:o, I think we should start calling Samsung "iSamsung" :p :o

16 days since my phone updated to 1.77 on TMob (1.78 for other networks :rolleyes:)

And no resets/reboots since then whatsoever. So, the One S is now officially the best phone I have ever owned, in the world, period.

Nice! :)

Same for me as well so far *touch wood*

It is indeed FAT32

That is why then. Just have to split the film file or whatever it is your copying over using some program.

Think this phone is faulty , every so often it goes mad and vibrates and the screens move about on there own, then after its finished the touch buttons at bottom don't work.

Damn, unlucky :(

I think I have read that someone else was having a similar issue to that.
 
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I don't think it's all that wise to use the CPU as a marketing thing, even if it is quad-core. Samsung have put a quad-core in the S3 and they don't mention it in any of the adverts I've seen on TV. They're catching on to what Apple do, but the advert still isn't great. The HTC advert is utterly dire as well.

Most markets get a dual core S4 for both sgs3 and HOX. Big TV ads are too generic but they all advertise number of cores at every opportunity, even Apple :p

The HOS is epic because you get a fantastic bit of kit for for peanuts.
 
I should've made myself clear HTC marketed the One X as a quad core phone with all the bells and whistles. Yes the screen is superior and it's the flagship but having had both the One X and One S at the same time I can tell you that despite the "inferior" screen the One S is the better phone.

Better phone at what? Aside from the battery life there are no other big advantages are there?

Those who stated the One S screen was inferior were comparing it with the One X at the time during the MWC and yes side by side it's inferior. I've bought every high end Android phone by that's been released on the market by saving hard but those slating the One S screen didn't put me off. I decided to wait until I saw one in the flesh and as I and many others have stated before it's not as bad as some people have made it out to be infact it's been a pleasant surprise to me.

I've never said the screen is bad, just that it's not good enough. Much like the Tegra 3 isn't good enough to be put in a flagship product. It's an observation, nothing more.

Most of us don't have the money to buy every phone that comes out on the market unlike you Robbo :p so when buying a phone the consumer will partake in research be it on the internet or ask those who are in the know.

Really? Most people I know just buy an iPhone, or if they're on a budget, wander into a phone shop and buy whatever the rep tells them to buy... usually something utterly terrible like a Samsung Wave 2... :eek:

Indeed!

Although in some ways agree with Robbo about the "in the know" part, however, I agree with you at the same time :D

People will either value the screen more like Robbo and others, where as others will value the hardware more, obviously if the screen was dreadful then it wouldn't even be worth considering the S, but the screen is great and better than the IPS on the X in some ways, which makes the 720P res not as tempting overall i.e. blacks and vibrant colours and more power efficient when you have darker colours, again obviously some aren't keen on AMOLED and much prefer IPS/LCD based screens though.

Exactly, when you break down the differences between the S and X, you have:

Design: Tie (preference)
Screen: better on the One X, even if you prefer AMOLED you have to give it to the One X
Battery: unquestionably better on the One S
Internals: better on the One S
Software: Tie
Camera/video: Tie
Storage: Twice as good on the One X
Audio: One S
Price: One S is cheaper
Connectivity: NFC on the One X, not on the S

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks close enough to be swayed by personal preference, so you have two excellent, competing phones and personal preference will decide? Obviously preference is a pretty big deal.

Yeah I can see your point as well Robbo, for a lot of people the screen is very important, however, the screen on the S is great as well and yes it is a step backwards from the GN, GS 3, X etc. however, when ever a chip like the S4 brings more to the table than just a sharper and larger screen i.e. the battery life, the "coolness" of the chip, the performance (which is noticeable at the minute) then these factors in some ways make up for the lack of 720P res. and people who have moved from the X to the S have not missed the X screen at all due to the S4 chip much like Jabbs has said so far, he knew that the screen wasn't going to be as good, however, he has mentioned that the mobile is faster and video recording etc. seems smoother and from the rest that he has said, he seems to be enjoying the phone more than the X? Much like Stoosh and many other people who have moved from the X to the S have also said the same about not missing the X screen (although they originally moved due to the size) and are enjoying the mobile more due to speed etc. which is brought by the S4 chip.

The speed difference seems to be mainly noticeable in the launcher. Apps don't launch much faster (if at all) and the 'in the know' people will generally be on a custom launcher. I think the benefits of the S4 are great, but are being exaggerated a bit in some cases.

And indeed another area where Samsung are copying apple and failing miserably with their marketing "designed for humans"................:o, I think we should start calling Samsung "iSamsung" :p :o

The whole 'designed for humans' thing is terrible. I didn't realise phones had previously been designed for cats... :p
 
My views on the two
Screen 1X
Colours 1S

Sound 1S
Video 1S(far smoother)
Camera tied

Design
1S feels more premium

Sense
Far smoother 1S

Speed of device
1S feels much snappier

Will do more after testing
 
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Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but that looks close enough to be swayed by personal preference, so you have two excellent, competing phones and personal preference will decide? Obviously preference is a pretty big deal.

Indeed! Personal preference at the end of the day :)

Yeah the screen does have to go towards the X, if I look at it from a "3rd person view".

The SAMOLED advantages are massive for me particularly the black levels as my entire layout is black based :o :p So it looks much better than a LCD based screen.

The main areas that it will come down to in real world use; is the screen, size/design/looks, storage and battery life and if someone is an audiophile :p audio.

The speed difference seems to be mainly noticeable in the launcher. Apps don't launch much faster (if at all) and the 'in the know' people will generally be on a custom launcher. I think the benefits of the S4 are great, but are being exaggerated a bit in some cases.

I personally find apps to launch a quicker overall as well, a more "instant/snappy" feel to them.

The whole 'designed for humans' thing is terrible. I didn't realise phones had previously been designed for cats... :p

:D

Do Samsung seriously not realise just how stupid that sounds :o I would certainly like to think that a £500 phone was designed for us and not cats, dogs etc. :p
 
Someone do a GTA3 test, crank the settings up to max (including res) See how smooth they run and for how long.

Some random mpv going on a killing spree :p
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Wow this phone is buggy the touch problem is annoying the phone goes crazy for no reason, and the wifi drops out, this will be the last HTC phone I try what has happened to them.
 
Not get it replaced for a new one?

I have no problem with the touch problem as for the wifi drop outs, I have this sometimes, but it is a very rare problem for me, it also only seems to happen after midnight, never during the day, no idea why.......
 
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