Poll: *** The Official iPhone 12 (12 mini/12/12Pro/12Pro Max) Thread ***

Which iPhone 12 will you get?

  • iPhone 12 mini

    Votes: 55 18.8%

  • iPhone 12

    Votes: 39 13.4%

  • iPhone 12 Pro

    Votes: 93 31.8%

  • iPhone 12 Pro Max

    Votes: 109 37.3%
  • Total voters
    292
Chris1712 said:
Qi is only 5w, anything more you need proprietary Apple stuff. Same as previous generations, 7.5w is Apple only and 15w is MagSafe only. Bun.
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Previous Apple phones support 7.5w qi charging. Whats stopping you from putting the phone on a 15w Qi charger and having to charge at 15w?
 
I hadnt even noticed the lack of headphones, the power plug doesn't bother me as I have a 4 way plug next to the bed which charges my watch, iPad, Phone and powers my Echo so I get why they've done it..

What it will be though, is a bit more profit for Apple, keep the prices as was but giving you less in the box makes their margins better..
Think of it like the "olive" thing in drinks for whichever airline it was....
 
Trig said:
I hadnt even noticed the lack of headphones, the power plug doesn't bother me as I have a 4 way plug next to the bed which charges my watch, iPad, Phone and powers my Echo so I get why they've done it..

What it will be though, is a bit more profit for Apple, keep the prices as was but giving you less in the box makes their margins better..
Think of it like the "olive" thing in drinks for whichever airline it was....
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Exactly. The purpose isn’t to save the consumer money, it’s to reduce environmental impact. Too many people are focussed just on the money, specifically their own money, and forget about the bigger picture.
 
Lack of earpods and charger for "environmental" reasons I suppose is a good thing, like many others I haven't touched them for the past few phones I've got.

Will likely look at the 128gb 12 Pro.
 
mrochester said:
Previous Apple phones support 7.5w qi charging. Whats stopping you from putting the phone on a 15w Qi charger and having to charge at 15w?
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Only on Apple approved chargers! You can't just grab a nice cheap china special and get 7.5w, has to be Apple approved which is basically Belkin/Mophie etc. Expensive. Same for 15w, only works with MagSafe - not just any 15w Qi charger.
 
Chris1712 said:
Only on Apple approved chargers! You can't just grab a nice cheap china special and get 7.5w, has to be Apple approved which is basically Belkin/Mophie etc. Expensive. Same for 15w, only works with MagSafe - not just any 15w Qi charger.
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I’ve never heard this at all!
 
mrochester said:
Exactly. The purpose isn’t to save the consumer money, it’s to reduce environmental impact.
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Thats what a lot of companies want you to believe, but by not supplying a set of headphones or a plug, the fact that the prices stay the same suggests that its not about saving the environment, as a cheaper phone would mean more people upgrading surely..
By giving people more, or the same, for less money AND reducing environmental impact, that makes it look like you actual care about it, this, I'm not sure Apple is capable of.
 
Trig said:
Thats what a lot of companies want you to believe, but by not supplying a set of headphones or a plug, the fact that the prices stay the same suggests that its not about saving the environment, as a cheaper phone would mean more people upgrading surely..
By giving people more, or the same, for less money AND reducing environmental impact, that makes it look like you actual care about it, this, I'm not sure Apple is capable of.
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Removing these items from the box only saves a small number of £ and wouldn’t be a significant saving to the customer, certainly not enough to be the difference between upgrading or not. Their removable does massively reduce the amount of stuff being made unnecessarily though. Also someone NOT upgrading is better for the environment then them upgrading.

What’s the estimated cost to apple for the charging brick and headphones? Is £5 reasonable? That would be the saving to the customer.
 
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mrochester said:
Removing these items from the box only saves a small number of £ and wouldn’t be a significant saving to the customer, certainly not enough to be the difference between upgrading or not. Their removable does massively reduce the amount of stuff being made unnecessarily though. Also someone NOT upgrading is better for the environment then them upgrading.

What’s the estimated cost to apple for the charging brick and headphones? Is £5 reasonable? That would be the saving to the customer.
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2 things they don't have to make themselves or ship in, save them money, less weight for shipping, saves them money, still charging the customer the same amount.
Do some quick math, you say £5 to the customer, but add all of the backgrounds costs up, so lets not pretend that its all about the environment eh, Apple are a business, a business that has shareholders and CFO's to appease, the whole green thing means people can charge more for less under the guise of it being environmentally good when, in reality that's not their primary driver...
 
Trig said:
Thats what a lot of companies want you to believe, but by not supplying a set of headphones or a plug, the fact that the prices stay the same suggests that its not about saving the environment, as a cheaper phone would mean more people upgrading surely..
By giving people more, or the same, for less money AND reducing environmental impact, that makes it look like you actual care about it, this, I'm not sure Apple is capable of.
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It is reducing the environmental impact.
 
Trig said:
2 things they don't have to make themselves or ship in, save them money, less weight for shipping, saves them money, still charging the customer the same amount.
Do some quick math, you say £5 to the customer, but add all of the backgrounds costs up, so lets not pretend that its all about the environment eh, Apple are a business, a business that has shareholders and CFO's to appease, the whole green thing means people can charge more for less under the guise of it being environmentally good when, in reality that's not their primary driver...
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It benefits apple and the environment.
 
I'm the type of person who actually likes Apples Earpods and use the regular, and I think the lack of them in the box for such a hefty price is a bit of a shame, since what they only cost £25-30 from a high street retailer.
 
Trig said:
By giving people more, or the same, for less money AND reducing environmental impact, that makes it look like you actual care about it, this, I'm not sure Apple is capable of.
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What rubbish. Apple is doing way more than most manufacturers to limit their environmental impact.

All the Apple haters having a go over the lack of chargers or earbuds is tiresome. Yes it saves them money but also benefits the environment so it's win-win, especially when the vast majority of people already have these items.

Also, let's not forget that they've not increased prices this year, despite offering more power and features and increased memory capacity.
If they also offered the Pro in an alternate SKU, still at £999 but with 64GB and a charger and buds included, like the 11 Pro, everyone would be saying it's a no-brainer to go for the extra capacity in exchange for the charger/buds.
 
Vertigo1 said:
If they also offered the Pro in an alternate SKU, still at £999 but with 64GB and a charger and buds included, like the 11 Pro, everyone would be saying it's a no-brainer to go for the extra capacity in exchange for the charger/buds.
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Good way of putting it, totally agree. Lets face it most people moved to bluetooth headphones years ago, and have been using the same charger for years aswell. I would have preferred a cost saving for the consumer, but at least it's not gone up.
 
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