**The Official J&W JW-X48D2-Extreme Thread**

Just wanted to add my thanks to WJA for his tireless testing of motherboards!

I've followed several recommendations of his for boards in the last year, and I've not been disappointed with any of them.

I'm actually looking for a new CF capable motherboard at the moment, and WJA's comments have convinced me that this J&W looks just the job!

Keep up the good work, and let it be known that people do appreciate all the time and effort you put in. Thankyou! :)
 
Nice review WJA96, ive been trying to decide between a Rampage and a LT X48-T2R all day for some HD4870 crossfire goodness and now i have just noticed this board. I was looking forward to the P45 boards but the crossfire bandwith is a worry.

A few questions.


1. What warranty/support do you get with this board from OcUK, as my previous DFI/Asus RMAs with OcUK have been a PITA ?

2. How often are there bios updates from J&A ? What is the method for updating the bios, hopefully not floppy/windows, does it support USB stick ?

3. What do you think this board offer over the Rampage/LT X48-T2R as they are similar prices ?


Im not majorly concerned that it doesnt keep up with the P45 on FSB, if i change my Q6600 before Nehalem it will be for a QX9650.
 
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1. What warranty/support do you get with this board from OcUK, as my previous DFI/Asus RMAs with OcUK have been a PITA ?

The RMA is with OcUK, as the agents for J&W. I had to RMA my P35 board and the replacement came back within a week.

2. How often are there bios updates from J&A ? What is the method for updating the bios, hopefully not floppy/windows, does it support USB stick ?

There has already been one BIOS update, but if you look at the P35 thread you will see that they reacted within a week to the initial criticism, so I think the answer to that is that BIOS updates come out very quicly after issues are raised. J&W are represented on here by Ken Wong (kenofstephen) who is their Product Marketing Manager, and he has direct access to the Techies and if you ask him a question you usually get an answer back very quickly indeed. As far as I know, none of the other motherboard manufacturers offer the kind of support Ken does on here, and if they do have a representative, they're not dedicated to the UK market in the way that Ken is.

As regards updates, the board will boot from a USB stick formatted as a DOS drive a la Abit, or they offer a windows or DOS based flash utility. The board features a very neat dual BIOS where, if you mess up the BIOS flash, you move a jumper on the board and the system boots from the previous BIOS, which is then automatically flashed across to the original BIOS chip, allowing you to try again. The primary BIOS chip is also socketed, rather than soldered.

The external CMOS reset switch is also much neater than the DFI's hold down the reset, then hold down the reset and power together, then release the reset button method of resetting the CMOS.

3. What do you think this board offer over the Rampage/LT X48-T2R as they are similar prices ?

I can't talk about the Rampage, as I haven't got one, but I do have an LT X48-T2R and it's a fabulous board, but the extra options in the BIOS actually make it quite harder to overclock safely. Some of the options in there will quite happily fry a 45nm CPU if the user doesn't know what (s)he's doing. J&W have colour coded their BIOS options red/yellow/green for dangerous/risky/safe. That may or may not be something that concerns you, but for novice overclockers with 45nm CPUs, I think it's useful. The other issue with the DFI is the heat generated by the Northbridge. Although DFI supply a 'Thermalright designed' northbridge cooler, the Northbridge and PWM run very hot indeed. I actually have mine water-cooled to get it stable at big overclocks. The design of the chipset cooling on the J&W looks daft, I'll grant you, but it's much more effective than the DFI cooler.
 
Thanks for the response mate.

The RMA is with OcUK, as the agents for J&W. I had to RMA my P35 board and the replacement came back within a week.

How many years is it guaranteed with OcUK and if the mobo was sold on do you know if it would it be transferable ?
 
To be honest I don't think you would need more than a year on a motherboard, as things move so fast after a year it will be old tech and if you can't spend the money on upgrading the board you should be able to find a compatible board for peanut money.
 
WJA96, becuase of you, i hope OcUK are going to get more sales for this board. it seems brilliant, and i have now recomended it on my thread aswell casu of you :)

OcUK should give 5% of the profit to you :p
 
Marks out of 10 please for this mobo?

Its 160 and I'm worried about resale...

9/10 because the Northbridge cooler blocks the first PCIe slot, and stops the use of bigger heatpipe coolers in certain orientations. It loses a mark in my book simply because it's £160.

As we are both aware, people like us make or break these motherboards. If we say it's a good board, the resale will be high. If we say it's duff, the resale will be shocking. That's why no-one buys MSI, even though it's a well known brand, the performance isn't good, so the resale is poor.

On this board, the performance is good, so the recommendations will be good, and hence so will the resale.
 
Can I ask, what is the droop/drop like? Anything like the loadline damper on the Asus boards?

It's quite low - I measured 0.02V from idle to full load with a Q6600 at 1.55V in the BIOS. There is no loadline calibration, but it doesn't really need it. ASUS only released that feature because it had such a disastrous time with it's NForce 650i and P965 boards - so the P35 boards had this dynamic vDroop correction.
 
Does anyone know if a Scythe Ninja will fit on this board, if it doesn't what would be the best HS to go in here?
Also what HS are you using WJA?

I'd just like to say thanks for all the info and testing, it's much appreciated :)

Thanks
 
9/10 because the Northbridge cooler blocks the first PCIe slot,.

@ WJA96

Looking at the picture from above and your comment, will a thicker card like the GTX280 with its backplate, actually fit in the top PCI-e slot without touching the cooler fins?


I'm seriously considering this board to go with a QX9650, Ballistix and cf 4870. Anyone know any issues with those components and this board?
 
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