I'm running a Q9450, ballistix (at the moment) and two HD4850's with 4870's in boxes ready to be installed for testing. I have AC passive coolers on my graphics cards and they're fine.
**The Official J&W JW-X48D2-Extreme Thread**
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I'm running a Q9450, ballistix (at the moment) and two HD4850's with 4870's in boxes ready to be installed for testing. I have AC passive coolers on my graphics cards and they're fine.
Water cooled I'm afraid. I usually use a Thermalright HR-01 for my initial out-of-case testing, and that 'just' fits.
The Ninja is 110mm wide if my google-skills are any good, and the HR-01 is also 110mm wide, but the Ninja is that wide from much lower down, so I would have to guess no, it won't fit a Ninja.
Sorry.
Soldato
yea!
will this work
How are the vista 64 bit drivers with this mobo ? I'm thinking of getting one, with either a GTX280 or 2x 4870. This will be coupled to a q6600 until the price cuts take effect in July August, at which point I will get a q9550. *unless of course I am totally satisfied with the q6600 performance*
Any recommendations for the RAM (minimum 4GB, but thinking of 8GB)
Will an Arctic 7 freezer pro work ok on the board?
How are the vista 64 bit drivers with this mobo ? I'm thinking of getting one, with either a GTX280 or 2x 4870. This will be coupled to a q6600 until the price cuts take effect in July August, at which point I will get a q9550. *unless of course I am totally satisfied with the q6600 performance*
Any recommendations for the RAM (minimum 4GB, but thinking of 8GB)
Will an Arctic 7 freezer pro work ok on the board?
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Resident J&W nut job is what he should be made.
Or maybe a Don, both are fine by me.
Or maybe a Don, both are fine by me.
Resident J&W nut job is what he should be made.
Noted as a potential trouble maker....
Or maybe a Don, both are fine by me.
You may not actually realise this, but Don's actually have to work. They have to tidy up threads, track down RTM posts, delete SPAM posts etc. The fun bit (wielding the ban-hammer and hanging out in the Don's Lounge forum laughing at the things people are asking for in the Product Suggestions forum) is only a tiny part of it. As I am far too busy avoiding doing any real work, spending too much on hardware, posting SPAM untidily and RTMing anything posted by Easyrider
p) I couldn't possibly be a Don, even if I wanted to. Which I don't. Thanks for the sentiment though. It's nice to be appreciated.
They are the standard Intel ones that everyone is using on the X48 boards, so they are as good or bad as everyone elses. I haven't had a lot of issues, but the install routine for the Viista drivers isn't automated like some other manufacturers. That's actually quite a good thing though, in my opinion.
If you're going to get a GTX280 (and I think you'd be off your head if you did), then a P45 board is a lot cheaper. The one real trick of the X38 and X48 boards is the dual PCIe 2.0 16x slots. So they're the ones to go for with Crossfire.
All the X48 boards are pretty similar, what you get with J&W is proper customer service from kenofstephen, a fast response to issues raised and lots of friendly banter in the official thread. It's quite a small club, but we're actively recruiting.
For RAM, G.Skill PC8000 works well with no voltage adjustment at all, and it'll take even the Q9550 well over 4GHz without being out of specification. I would definitely get 8Gb if you can stretch to it as it is the faster set-up with the 64-bit OS and there don't seem to be any drawbacks to running 4 sticks vs. running 2 sticks.
It will, but be aware that overclocked Quad-cores run quite hot, and it'll be running 100% most of the time, at which point it's not the quietest cooler in the world. If you're not overclocking hard, then it'll be nice and quiet. Coolers that blow down on the board as great with this board eg. TT Big Typhoon.
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OK, I admit to being a motherboard n00b. But I still have to ask:
(a) What is it about this motherboard that makes it worth a £160+ price tag? It appears to have fewer features than some motherboards less than half its price
(b) How can a £160+ motherboard be classified as "value", when I would have thought this title was for low budget gear with fewer features? At £160 you are paying way over the odds for one of the most expensive motherboards on the market, so how is that "value"? Value compared to what?
(a) What is it about this motherboard that makes it worth a £160+ price tag? It appears to have fewer features than some motherboards less than half its price
(b) How can a £160+ motherboard be classified as "value", when I would have thought this title was for low budget gear with fewer features? At £160 you are paying way over the odds for one of the most expensive motherboards on the market, so how is that "value"? Value compared to what?
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It has 2 16x PCIe 2.0 slots and it has the highest specification Intel X48 chipset.
Are you the guy who was expecting the OcUK Sub Zero to be a Tec cooler for £120? It's a name that OcUK have given the board.
The real name of the board is the J&W JW-X48D2-Extreme. Instead of just calling the board what everyone else in the world calls it, OcUK appear to have given people who are easily confused another opportunity to give themselves a headache. Imagine Ferrari have never sold cars in the UK before, and they sell them only through OcUK, and OcUK label them as OcUK Value Supercars. It's a bit like that. Actually, it's exactly like that.
If you tell me which 'budget' board you have in mind as a comparison, I'll try and explain why it's cheaper. Much of the cost is in the chipset though.
Soldato
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2 16x PCIe 2.0 slots is a big deal, I'll grant you that. I'm not familiar with the X48 chipset, so what's the story there?
Is it mainly about the memory and fsb speeds? I can see that they're impressively high.
Nope, that wasn't me.
Why? It sounds like "Tesco bargain basement meal", or something.
It already has its own name; why not use that?
The Asus PK5C is a "budget" board, IMHO. Not an X38 of course, but at least it offers DDR2 & DDR3 (the J&W only supports DDR2, though admittedly at higher speeds). It also runs 1333 fsb, which is only one step down from the J&W.
Help me to understand.
2 16x PCIe 2.0 slots is a big deal, I'll grant you that. I'm not familiar with the X48 chipset, so what's the story there?
X48 (and x38) allow both PCI-E x16 slots to run at full speed (x16). The new P45 chipset limits the slots to x8 when running in x-fire. This is currently a prime reason for choosing an x48 board over a P45 and others.
Is it mainly about the memory and fsb speeds? I can see that they're impressively high.
Indeed that they are
Nope, that wasn't me.
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Why? It sounds like "Tesco bargain basement meal", or something.
LOL !
It already has its own name; why not use that?
They could have, but not many people know the brand (I didn't) and so just overlook it. By slapping an OCUK brand onto it, it gives the brand 'street-cred'.
The Asus PK5C is a "budget" board, IMHO. Not an X38 of course, but at least it offers DDR2 & DDR3 (the J&W only supports DDR2, though admittedly at higher speeds). It also runs 1333 fsb, which is only one step down from the J&W.
As per above, no x-fire at x16/x16
Help me to understand.
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Its been said before but the major proportion of the cost of the mainboard is the chipset, if you want to compare mainboard pricing you should compare boards with the same chipset and then move on to smaller additional features such as dual bios number of lan controllers post diagnostics etc etc. As far as the JW x48 goes for its feature set its probably one of the best value x48 boards and most definatly should not be compared to P35 P45 X38 boards as they are using far cheaper chipsets (although you may only require the features provided by those chipsets hence you might be better off with a lower priced board).
The positioning of the JW brand has changed over the past months with good work from kenofstephen & WJA, when the boards were first launched overclockers decided to throw thier own brand name onto these boards as they have a stronger brand than the then unkown J&W.
The positioning of the JW brand has changed over the past months with good work from kenofstephen & WJA, when the boards were first launched overclockers decided to throw thier own brand name onto these boards as they have a stronger brand than the then unkown J&W.
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going to update my first E8500 trial run today
I dont think there are many x38/x48 boards that will do 500 fsb without insane volts.
I have a P5E with custom water with the most volts I dare push I can get 490 with my Q9300.
CPU at 1.45v (bios) NB 1.7v
I have tried hard for 500 fsb but it aint happening, seems the P45s will do it, but not a lot of good with no dual 16x lanes, so rules it out for a lot of us xfire users.
For the record with my 6300 I could get 525 on air, but dont think my memory liked it any further, did think of trying it under my custom water, reckon the board would do more on a dualie.
Its debatable wether the X48s are that much better than the X38s.
I have a P5E with custom water with the most volts I dare push I can get 490 with my Q9300.
CPU at 1.45v (bios) NB 1.7v
I have tried hard for 500 fsb but it aint happening, seems the P45s will do it, but not a lot of good with no dual 16x lanes, so rules it out for a lot of us xfire users.
For the record with my 6300 I could get 525 on air, but dont think my memory liked it any further, did think of trying it under my custom water, reckon the board would do more on a dualie.
Its debatable wether the X48s are that much better than the X38s.
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with X48 wouldnt the chip atleast get your FBS to 400 due to the official 1600 suport?
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