The Official Microsoft Flight Thread

The thing I like about FSX is the F11 view (outside the plane) I have gex and rex and this has made the game look better. Whilst this suits me it will not suit hardcore simmers who fly from the cockpit.
As far as I can tell this new game will appeal to me because the scenary looks great and I can fly with the outside view.
 
VOR/etc is in but none of the default planes have the equipment to receive. Some of the DLC planes (costing $8 for the cheapest) don't even have a 1st person cockpit view apparently! How much will a small Moony Bravo with full glass cockpit cost?

It's $20 for the rest of Hawaii. I dread to think how much the whole of the UK/Northern Europe might be.

http://www.1up.com/news/microsoft-flight-day-one-dlc

EDIT: Just to say the biggest reason I'm a hater is that it missed the mark of both a simulation and game and feels like some designed by committee, uninspired mess.

If they want to make it a game then why's there no storyline like the Take on Helicopters? Why is there no career progression through the challenges? Why are the missions so boring compared to even some of the stock FSX ones?

If they wanted to make "flight accessible to all" then why do I have to shell out $100's just to buzz about over my home town (or recent holiday location) in any of my favourite planes?
 
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Microsoft always said that Microsoft Flight is not the continuation of Flight Simulator series that is no longer in development.

Hardcore simmers just mock the game which is what I find strange as it was never made for them.
It's like they feel they are far more superior then anyone else who should dare to chose a flight game other then FSX.

I like playing iRacing as it's a racing sim, I don't like Dirt3 but I don't feel the need to go on the Dirt 3 thread & start posting negative comments about a game that was never designed for me. Nor do I see other people doing the same.

But for some strange reason the hardcore FSX fans feel the need to spend a lot of time on the AVSIM MS Flight forum just mocking MS Flight 80%-90% of the posts are from FSX hardcore fans.
I spent 2 weeks on there 4 weeks ago & in the 2 weeks 2 users got a life ban with all of there posted deleted & 2 got suspended for trolling.
For a game thats not even made for them, I find it very strange.
And today there they are on AVSIM forum still laughing at the same old jokes that have been told 50 times like it's the first time they have been told it.

It's all very strange.

& here they are still posting in a thread about a game that's not even aimed at you :D
 
ah give it a rest Garsands! You're no better than the AVSIM haters, why do you even continue to read their hating threads other than to make yourself feel superior?

Lots of people were looking forward to MS Flight, now they've been let down. I think you'd find many of us would be perfectly supportive if it was actually a good "game" in the first place.
 
VOR/etc is in but none of the default planes have the equipment to receive. Some of the DLC planes (costing $8 for the cheapest) don't even have a 1st person cockpit view apparently! How much will a small Moony Bravo with full glass cockpit cost?

It's $20 for the rest of Hawaii. I dread to think how much the whole of the UK/Northern Europe might be.

http://www.1up.com/news/microsoft-flight-day-one-dlc

EDIT: Just to say the biggest reason I'm a hater is that it missed the mark of both a simulation and game and feels like some designed by committee, uninspired mess.

If they want to make it a game then why's there no storyline like the Take on Helicopters? Why is there no career progression through the challenges? Why are the missions so boring compared to even some of the stock FSX ones?

If they wanted to make "flight accessible to all" then why do I have to shell out $100's just to buzz about over my home town (or recent holiday location) in any of my favourite planes?

That will be just ONE plane not some that does not have a 1st person cockpit.
Would not want you to start spreading miss leading info.

With the rest of Hawii DLC you also get the Vans RV-6A plane that does have fully working equipment to receive VOR/ect.
Again I would not want you to start spreading miss leading info.

None of the default planes have the equipment to receive this is ture but how much do they cost?
I think you will find they are free.

You don't need to fly over your own home to make flight accessible to all, unless I am missing something does a plane handle different when you are over you own house?

But I am pleased that you feel the need again to post about a game that is not aimed at you & that you have used the words 'biggest reason I'm a hater'

Did I ask the question - So is it a hate campaign? Yesterday?

Taking the time to Hate about a game that was never designed for you :rolleyes:

I don't like football games, should I go on the football threads & start mocking there game :D
 
ah give it a rest Garsands! You're no better than the AVSIM haters, why do you even continue to read their hating threads other than to make yourself feel superior?

Lots of people were looking forward to MS Flight, now they've been let down. I think you'd find many of us would be perfectly supportive if it was actually a good "game" in the first place.

lol your telling me to give it a rest in a thread about a game that I like.
in that same thread about about a game you hate who is in the wrong thread here?

I look on the AVSIM Flight forum as I need help with ILS landings as I am new to flying games.
But at the moment it is full of hardcore FSX simmers posting about a game that was never made for them & telling the same old jokes that have been told 50 times already.
So when & if it stops I can them post my help post but at the moment it will just get taken over by haters.
Is that ok with you?

I have not posted on there for over 2 week & this is why.

While you keep on posting miss leading info about MS flight I will keep on fixing you posts for you.

We would not want you to put new players of MS Flight now would we?
I am sure you would never think of doing such a thing just one big misunderstanding.
 
That will be just ONE plane not some that does not have a 1st person cockpit.
Would not want you to start spreading miss leading info.

With the rest of Hawii DLC you also get the Vans RV-6A plane that does have fully working equipment to receive VOR/ect.
Again I would not want you to start spreading miss leading info.

None of the default planes have the equipment to receive this is ture but how much do they cost?
I think you will find they are free.

You don't need to fly over your own home to make flight accessible to all, unless I am missing something does a plane handle different when you are over you own house?

But I am pleased that you feel the need again to post about a game that is not aimed at you & that you have used the words 'biggest reason I'm a hater'

Did I ask the question - So is it a hate campaign? Yesterday?

Taking the time to Hate about a game that was never designed for you :rolleyes:

I don't like football games, should I go on the football threads & start mocking there game :D

1. I said "some" because it's unknown how many will be of that standard but i suspect quite a few. One at release for sure.
Would not want you to start spreading miss leading info. of course... ;)

2. I was talking about the terrain available, Hawaii does cost $20 so I am correct.
Would not want you to start spreading miss leading info.

3. Not sure what you mean.

4. It's one of the most common things people want to do in a flightsim!? It's very Inaccessible if you have to shell out $100's to have a bit of freedom (which is a large part of why people enjoy flyingh - both real and simulated)

5. Sarcasm! :)

6. Why wasn't it designed for me? I love all types of flight games from airline tycoon to hawx to DCS: A10-C so is it not understandable that when a game I've been looking forward to turns out badly I get disappointed?
 
1. Facts only please.
The fact is we know only one is being released without a cockpit.
Some of the DLC planes (costing $8 for the cheapest) don't even have a 1st person cockpit view apparently!
There is no mention of the words 'I suspect' in that statement.
I could suspect that a fully working 747 is going to be released in 2 months time with the whole world to fly around in. The fact only I suspect does not mean anything.

2.You do know that its $20 not just for Hawaii but you also get the Vans RV-6A plane aswell? So it's not $20 for Hawaii alone.
It's $20 for the rest of Hawaii.
You forgot to add that you also get the Vans RV-6A plane.

3.
VOR/etc is in but none of the default planes have the equipment to receive.
They do not cost any money they are part of the free base game.

4. There statement of "flight accessible to all" means it is easy to start to learn to fly. The Icon as they say is like a flying car as it's so easy to fly & user friendly. When you look at the cockpit it has very few controls so a new user feels at home with it. They also mean you only need a keyboard & mouse to fly with MS Flight. The air space & size of air space does not stop you from doing both of thoses things. Just because you can't fly over your own house does not mean its not accessible to you.

accessible adjective easy to approach

5.
You sure.

6. Your tone of your post's tell a different story.

Right I am done with our chat over to you.
We both have planes to fly.
Me in my very simple sim you in your much harder to use sim which I do envy the guys who can fly the PMDG 747 it must be a amazing.
But it's to much for me to learn at this point in my life, I am finding it hard to work out ILS as it is.
 
Just it all. Did you not get on the beta for Flight mate? I'd have imagined you'd be too deeply engrossed in your island hopping adventure to be posting on here again!
 
Oh yes I got in & been playing 40+ hours with it.
It's 80% of what I have been looking for & I really enjoy it.
And it's a simple Flight sim for people with little spare time to learn how to fly a big jet.
So with little easyer to fly planes you don't need the whole world to fly around.
As I have said I have no clue about ILS ect but it's all there for me to learn when I have the time, that's the depth for me.
We all have to start somewhere.
It will only make FSX stronger as it's a free download if someone whats to give flying ago but not sure that they will like it they can try flight, if they then like it but find it to simple or they want bigger jets & the world off to FSX they go & more 3PD sales happy days.

I'd have imagined you'd be too deeply engrossed in your island hopping adventure

I am I really enjoy the low & slow flying style, is that not how new real life pilots start off?

I have no problem with MS Flight being a simple sim, to some it seems like a dirty word something to be ashamed of.

The only problem I have is the knocking of MS Flight for the only reason of it was not what they thought it was going to be so if I don't like it, I am going to feed you info so you don't like it.

The hradcore FSX fans should be welcoming new players to MS Flight as when they do try it & they find it to simple or gamey you can then welcome them to FSX.

I am also not here to make enemies lifes to short, if I have falling outs so be it, it can't be helped I have no problem with the micky been taken out of me it's all fun.
 
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And it's a simple Flight sim for people with little spare time to learn how to fly a big jet.

No it isn't a sim at all it's a game.

I would also say that for someone interested in learning to fly properly then FSX is better. Why the need to change from a game to a sim? I fail to see how anyone can learn anything from a game where some of the aircraft don't even have cockpit views.

I have done a few hours real world stuff and I don't remember the instructor telling me "today we are going up in the plane with no dials or buttons so that it is easier to learn". Nonsense. You learn the basics in the same environment and then build up knowledge.

I can imagine the kids flying mostly on the external views. How this game will teach people about anything other than the very basic principles of flight is beyond me.
 
Here we go again if we could please stick to the facts.
where some of the aircraft don't even have cockpit views.
The fact again is only ONE plane does not have a cockpit view.
This ONE plane is a DLC for people who wish to play the game side of MS Flight.

This one plane that you chose to pick out & not even mention the sim planes its the North American P-51 Mustang fighter plane.

Lets have a look at this one plane that you have chosen to fool the readers into thinking you are going to be taught the basics. And does not come with the free download content.

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I have done a few hours real world stuff and I don't remember the instructor telling me "today we are going up in the plane with no dials or buttons so that it is easier to learn". Nonsense. You learn the basics in the same environment and then build up knowledge.

Now why did you chose to pick out this one none sim plane? If a instructor told me to do get into this fighter jet for my first flying lesson I think he should be locked up.

But MS Flight does not give you that plane to learn does it.
Now lets sick to the facts here.

You learn the basics in the same environment and then build up knowledge.

Of course you do & this is what MS Flight does.

And this how.

Your first plane is the Icon A5 a very basic plane with working cockpit view, the cockpit shows you everything that the real Icon A5 has.
As someone new to flying you are shown all the basics of flying just like in real life. The Icon 5A does not have any flaps, just like the real one so as someone new to flying you do not have to worry about them.
You get vocal feed back while flying on how well you are doing like a real life instructor does, you are also told vocally what you need to look at with the dials as you are flying.
It's all very new user friendly, I understand that you would not know any of this as you have only flown 5 mins with MS Flight.

You are not placed in a fighter jet with no dials or buttons & just a outside view.
You are not even given it as the basic free download this is because MS know if you want to learn the sim side of flying you would have any use for it.

There's lots more to do but as the NDA is still in force that's all I can say.

But no worrys as again it's all free does not cost you anything to try out MS Flight so anyone can see if your taught to fly in what you say.....
"today we are going up in the plane with no dials or buttons so that it is easier to learn".

Or the very user friendly Icon A5 with working cockpit that has been modeled on the same CAD drawing that the real Icon A5 was designed with.

Here is a image of the cockpit of the plane that you learn the basics in. It's not the North American P-51 Mustang. But I would have thought you would have seen that yourself if you played even just 5 mins of the beta.
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You also don't need the whole world to be able to fly such a plane, the Hawaii big island is all you need it has over 15 airports & landing strips all with custom buildings.

When you have learnt the very basics of flying you can then move on to the Vans RV-6A, a two-seat, single-engine, low-wing homebuilt airplane made famous for its speed and maneuverability.
Again with a working cockpit & working Nav aids so back to what you have said.
You learn the basics in the same environment and then build up knowledge.

This is now what MS Flight is doing, you are now in a faster plane & as it's faster you now have over 35 airport/strips to land at.
You have a bigger landmass to fly around that also have fully working NAV, ect & ILS as the same airports have it for real.
Again you also get lots more but due to NDA I can't post about them.
You are also given even more feed back on how good you are flying & you have to learn to fly really smooth, just like a instructor would the goal post have been moved to make it harder. All part of your
You learn the basics in the same environment and then build up knowledge.
Here is a view of the RV-6A cockpit.
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You can also get the Maule M-7-260C is a rugged utility aircraft that is especially adept at handling take-offs and landings on rough, unprepared surfaces. Players can find out what makes the Maule the plane of choice for adventurous bush pilots by trying tricky landing challenges that push the aircraft’s ability to land on rough airstrips. They can enter the Maule’s cockpit and take the controls to transport people and cargo to complete jobs and advance their pilot career.

As you can see by the underlined part if you don't want to just fly around not to worry MS Flight give you plenty of things to do.

I have not tested the Maule I have already got 40 hours of flying from flight so far without even feeling the need to move on to a new plane.

Here is a image of the Maule cockpit just to save any confusion about it may have no cockpit.
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I have only played about 30 mins of the game side of MS Flight.
Getting gold coins & flying at hoops as I am not interested in that side of the game.


No it isn't a sim at all it's a game.

That is a matter of opinion.

Is FSX a level D simulator?

If not then does that still make FSX a simulator?

But again the best thing about MS Flight is it's free so anyone can try it at no risk.
It has also been made by part of the same team that made FSX, MS Flight can grow & get better. But with FSX you are going to be stuck with 20-35fps and randon program crashes mid flight, would a true simulator do that?
 
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