*** The Official Microsoft Surface Thread ***

Indeed the pricing is shocking. I bought an Asus T100 a year ago for £250. Okay, the Surface has a better screen, a faster processor, double the storage and will be a higher quality product, but it's double the price once the keyboard is added. Madness. It's certainly not twice as good.

The Surface Pro 3 (with Stylus) is available from £550 (or £520 even, just seen a new deal put up on a certain deals websitel). People would have to be mad to buy the Atom-powered Surface. It's bigger brother is well worth the extra £100-£150.
 
Martini1991 said:
Your charging point makes no sense lsg1r :p
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I never said it made sense from a practicality/user perspective but from what I've seen the atom slates/laptops are using the micro usb slot for charging. :D
I'd guess it's something to do with the internal design of the motherboard/charging circuit going via the usb slot over another socket.

satchef1 said:
The Surface Pro 3 (with Stylus) is available from £550 (or £520 even, just seen a new deal put up on a certain deals websitel). People would have to be mad to buy the Atom-powered Surface. It's bigger brother is well worth the extra £100-£150.
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well for the i3 64gb versus the 128gb 4gb model of the s3 the cost is basically the same or less.... that just makes no sense lol. S4 pro is likely incoming hence the price drops but still it makes the s3 seem even more overpriced.
 
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lsg1r said:
I never said it made sense from a practicality/user perspective but from what I've seen the atom slates/laptops are using the micro usb slot for charging. :D
I'd guess it's something to do with the internal design of the motherboard/charging circuit going via the usb slot over another socket.
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That's no different than MS using magnetic port when every other device with the same stuff is using micro-usb.

Tegra 3, Tegra 4, etc :p
 
Martini1991 said:
That's no different than MS using magnetic port when every other device with the same stuff is using micro-usb.

Tegra 3, Tegra 4, etc :p
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tegra had support for second power input, my nexus 7 tegra 3 had 2 ports for charging, the pins on the bottom and the usb port :p Maybe the atom doesn't, it is made by intel who like to 'artificially' differentiate products for no reason lol
 
Brenn47 said:
The iPad 64Gb is £479, the 128Gb is £559, so they're both £60 ish quid cheaper.
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Irrelevant.

Just as irrelevant as it was when the S2 launched and again, flopped.

Microsoft needed to be a loss leader back when they launched the Surface RT, it needed to be 200. Their store is absolutely crap. I'm a big lover of the Windows devices and Windows. But Christ on a bike, it's bleek.
 
The average laptops over £500, so I don't know why they can't charge similar, but yes,MS is going to struggle against Apple.

I'm looking forward to their $149 laptop they're releasing to compete agaist the chromebook.
 
Brenn47 said:
The average laptops over £500, so I don't know why they can't charge similar, but yes,MS is going to struggle against Apple.

I'm looking forward to their $149 laptop they're releasing to compete agaist the chromebook.
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Because the market's already shown why they can't charge similar? Or are you forgetting their previous failings of the last few years?
 
kefan77 said:
sorry to sound daft, but are both S3 - regular and Pro full 8.1 now? no more RT?

well, after quick googling, the answer seems to be yes.
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Essentially yes.

I guess this mean we'll get an S4 Pro launch for W10 with Broadwelll.

Again, Microsoft probably trying to do their hardest to screw up their launches :p

Surface 3 Cherry Trail basically looks ready to drop, which is ridiculous.

"Hi, buy our latest mainstream tablet, with our previous OS".
"But don't worry, you'll get W10 as an update" doesn't have the same appeal as a fully new advertised tablet with W10 from the offset.

They'd have been better not launching it on W8.1
 
Sorry I don't see the problem, it's a Atom X7 Cherry Trail device able to run Windows Pro for £60 cheaper than a comparable iPad. Surface is a flagship device, if you want a cheaper Windows tablet there's a gazillion of them down to the £49 I just paid for a HP Stream 7.
 
Macro said:
Sorry I don't see the problem, it's a Atom X7 Cherry Trail device able to run Windows Pro for £60 cheaper than a comparable iPad. Surface is a flagship device, if you want a cheaper Windows tablet there's a gazillion of them down to the £49 I just paid for a HP Stream 7.
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I have an S3 Pro. A Surface 2 RT, and I had a Windows RT before that.

Your mentality is the reason why the Windows Mobile Ecosystem's so dire (In relation to apps/market penetration etc). As far as tablet versus tablet goes, I'd pick an S3 up quite happily personally (To me it's the perfect tablet, the one I've been "waiting for", only it's over 2 years late and priced up against products that it's not going to beat out). But that's me, I've got the objective thinking to realize that it (Like the S1 and S2 before it) is going to go nowhere however.

Also, we keep getting the "Laptop replacement" line from MS. But it's still not really, based on history this new S3 still isn't going to have a full power USB port.
 
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Not entirely sure what your point is. MS sell Windows, on whatever device. S3 is a flagship premium product with MS OEM partners like Lenovo, HP, Dell etc making other tablets at other price points. It's not supposed to cheap any more than an iPad is.

This isn't Windows "mobile" it's Windows x86/x64 with everything that brings with it, not least a huge catalogue of games and applications. Atom X7 is a decent boost over previous Atom so should give decent performance with good battery life, not seen any benchmarks yet though.

Nice to see you dive in with crap like "Your mentality" and "I've got objective thinking to realise", wow you really do have a high opinion of yourself... No need to get grouchy because someone might not agree with you - sheesh.
 
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I don't doubt it'll be a good tablet, but it's certainly not the way Microsoft are going to make an impact at the mainstream, it's too heavily priced for that, and doesn't have the perception of an iPad. (Unless you don't actually judge success by market penetration). Why do you think it will? The market for the past few years has shown anything but that.

I'm not grouchy. And by your mentality, It's not an insult. It's the same mentality people had when MS launched their tablets the first and second time, and it went nowhere. And you didn't show any objectivity, you just said X and Y point (As always gets mentioned) without seemingly contemplating the reasons why all other Surface devices have barely gone anywhere.
 
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I think not including the pen is the only thing wrong with the price point.

Or as a minimum a matching colour pen should be provided with the £109 keyboard.

They can't be that expensive to produce.

Tempted to get one.
 
POB said:
I think not including the pen is the only thing wrong with the price point.

Or as a minimum a matching colour pen should be provided with the £109 keyboard.

They can't be that expensive to produce.

Tempted to get one.
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Don't you buy every Surface tablet though :p?

If Microsofts Surface had the same reputation as the ipad, with the same backlog with the same number of people ingrained in the ecosystem. There would be no problem with the price.

But those are the factors that matter the most to a lot of people. Store clerks hadn't even heard of a Surface when I bought my S2 from Argos.
 
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