*** The Official Microsoft Surface Thread ***

This is good.

Good enough to change Microsofts fortunes from its god awful tablet movement and become a major force? Will it fix the God awful store?
An aggressively priced consumer geared tablet would do far better for the above 2 things than this S3.

Also, Microsofts release plans are sketchy too.
Windows 8.1, with W10 around the corner.

Microsoft will need to bring out a Broadwell Tablet, probably with W10. If they call that Surface 4 Pro, doesn't that make the S3 seem last gen?
 
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Theirs absolutely NO issues with Win10 coming out..it will be a store update to it.
That's like saying its a problem for any other OEM to bring out hardware when a software is due an update, its not even a consideration.
When the Pro4 comes out, what price do you think it will be that it even will be cheap enough to consider?
God awful Tablet movement?...since they started they are seeing profits from the Surface, so its not doing that badly.
God awful Store...who cares about a "appy store" when you can run the full software the small Apopo is trying to mimic in an extremely limited way?
 
Yes, you do know Intel has now reorganised the Atom line up this being one of the newest ones right?

Also the Corm M 510c is just a slight update on the 5y10, which is a older design on the Duel core.
 
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Yes, you do know Intel has now reorganised the Atom line up this being one of the newest ones right?

The core m is far more powerful than the new atoms. It is only marginally slower than the full I series found in the surface Pro 3s. But with much improved battery life.
 
Yes, you do know Intel has now reorganised the Atom line up this being one of the newest ones right?

Yes.....

But why on Earth do you think Cherry Trails GPU is going to smoke the Broadwell? Every bit of rational logic would dictate it doesn't.
Cherry tails IGP has lower clocks and less EU's. It's actually stupidly likely they'll have exactly the same architecture of GPU.

Just sounds like you're not actually living in the real world as far as Microsofts tablet movement has gone.
You're putting your needs (And by extension enterprise) as the number 1 factor for "success".
 
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Yes.....

But why on Earth do you think Cherry Trails GPU is going to smoke the Broadwell? Every bit of rational logic would dictate it doesn't.
Cherry tails IGP has lower clocks and less EU's. It's actually stupidly likely they'll have exactly the same architecture of GPU.

Just sounds like you're not actually living in the real world as far as Microsofts tablet movement has gone.
You're putting your needs (And by extension enterprise) as the number 1 factor for "success".
Moving the argument...what makes you think Broadwell is even coming to the Pro 4, from everything I have read it will only make it to desktops as the cycle for it is to be rather short as Skylake has moved up since then.
 
Yes.....

But why on Earth do you think Cherry Trails GPU is going to smoke the Broadwell? Every bit of rational logic would dictate it doesn't.
Cherry tails IGP has lower clocks and less EU's. It's actually stupidly likely they'll have exactly the same architecture of GPU.

Just sounds like you're not actually living in the real world as far as Microsofts tablet movement has gone.
You're putting your needs (And by extension enterprise) as the number 1 factor for "success".

No im not, Enterprise is where the big money is in, also Surface is making headway in the consumer markets.
 
Moving the argument...what makes you think Broadwell is even coming to the Pro 4, from everything I have read it will only make it to desktops as the cycle for it is to be rather short as Skylake has moved up since then.

It doesn't have to be Broadwell, I'm just using it as a placeholder for Intels best chip available at the time of the S4's launch.

It could very well be Skylake.

It matters little. Either way, based on MS's previous launchings, they're likely to launch a new tablet with W10. This is where my S3 issue comes in, suddenly it looks quickly last gen to the consumer. Do you not see this issue? Then again, weren't you a person who didn't think people would get confused about Windows RT and X86?
 
No im not, Enterprise is where the big money is in, also Surface is making headway in the consumer markets.

How's it making headway since until today the cheapest Surface actually available to buy was almost 600 quid? My app store on my Surface 2/3 hasn't suddenly become better either.
Android's getting all these funky games, and my S2's getting nothing.
 
I'd have trouble playing twinkle twinkle little star.

But this app looks amazing.


Now there is a reasonably priced way to get a pen equipped tablet, I hope other apps get produced.
 
At least the start buttons in the right place now.

Yep, just a shame 99% of good apps are all MS made.
Normal x86 applications are no good on a tablet without the keyboard and mouse attached 90% of the time.
 
How's it making headway since until today the cheapest Surface actually available to buy was almost 600 quid?

Because those than do own them have steadily increased with the s2 s2 pro and the S3 was very well received. Not ever model is meant to be a huge Apple amount seller, its just has to steadily keep growing and showing profit, which has been done.
 
The UK price for the 64gb model is £429, what you are tyring to compare that too again?
the surface 3 pro i3 64gb/4gb model which is around £520-530 at the moment. Now you're going to say it's £100 more but it isn't when you add in the stylus for around £40... making it £60 more to get a better slate in all but 1 hour of battery life and arguably being a little bit bigger (some might prefer that aspect too).

To me grabbing the i3 model is a better deal, better cpu, better gpu, more ram, likely faster ssd, screen could be argued is better (it's basically same pixel density though) and a multi position stand.

If the surface was core M at £429 then yeah I would say ok value but it's not it's an atom, the cheapest cpu/gpu from intel and also the lowest performing.

And don't get me into the cost of accessories, the dock and keyboard cover cost EXACTLY the same for both the surface 3 pro and the surface 3
 
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How's it making headway since until today the cheapest Surface actually available to buy was almost 600 quid? My app store on my Surface 2/3 hasn't suddenly become better either.
Android's getting all these funky games, and my S2's getting nothing.

THen don't buy it, its not for you, that doesn't mean no one else wants one for doing actual work on it. Ive never though to buying a tablet for gaming.

Still, the S3 will be able to run Steam...so.
 
Because those than do own them have steadily increased with the s2 s2 pro and the S3 was very well received. Not ever model is meant to be a huge Apple amount seller, its just has to steadily keep growing and showing profit, which has been done.

And if this thread is anything to go buy, the people buying the tablets are those who had already bought one.

The hardware being well received isn't my issue, the hardware is good. It's still going nowhere.
 
THen don't buy it, its not for you, that doesn't mean no one else wants one for doing actual work on it. Ive never though to buying a tablet for gaming.

Still, the S3 will be able to run Steam...so.

The S3 is for me though, and it's very likely I'll buy one.
I like everything it offers.

My S3 Pro can use Steam, native gaming is like trying to put out a fire with a water gun, but Steam Streaming allows me to do full PC gaming in the bed.

Although, I still wish MS would stop calling it a Laptop replacement, as it's not really still. The 1 USB port (Not even full power, at least has been the case with every Surface so far) isn't what my Laptop has, or any modern laptop at the same price.
 
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