*** The Official Microsoft Surface Thread ***

lsg1r said:
the surface 3 pro i3 64gb/4gb model which is around £520-530 at the moment. Now you're going to say it's £100 more but it isn't when you add in the stylus for around £40... making it £60 more to get a better slate in all but 1 hour of battery life and arguably being a little bit bigger (some might prefer that aspect too).

To me grabbing the i3 model is a better deal, better cpu, better gpu, more ram, likely faster ssd, screen could be argued is better (it's basically same pixel density though) and a multi position stand.

If the surface was core M at £429 then yeah I would say ok value but it's not it's an atom, the cheapest cpu/gpu from intel and also the lowest performing.
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So you have an option then..terrible huh? Either way MS sells you a Surface.
 
cu3ed said:
THe unwashed masses who just want to know they can run full Office and desktop apps on this and wont know about anything else..
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Based on buying habbits, they don't seem to care all that much anymore? They didn't give a monkeys about Office when it was the S1 and S2's buying point.

And most people aren't going to spend 500 quid on a tablet anyway. I think far more people would get that 2 in 1 I linked to rather than the S3.
 
Martini1991 said:
How have they been going up when they've had nothing but the S3 Pro for sale for ages?
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The Surface2 was still on sale etc.
MS will know fine well they are not going to dominate the sales market in one product, they no this better than others, this is just another very good prodict to keep slowly building upon. Like I said they moved from a negative to nearly a billion in profit in a rather short space of time,.
 
lsg1r said:
you're now saying it's an option.... you mean it doesn't make the surface look overpriced to you.... it does to me considering the performance difference of the systems.
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What you man " im not saying", I never said it wasn't in direct comparison to other OEMs and products running other OS's.

Its pretty obvious they can sell the SP3 cheaper as its been out for a good run longer.
 
cu3ed said:
The Surface2 was still on sale etc.
MS will know fine well they are not going to dominate the sales market in one product, they no this better than others, this is just another very good prodict to keep slowly building upon. Like I said they moved from a negative to nearly a billion in profit in a rather short space of time,.
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The S2 has been unavailable for months.

Microsoft could have done what google did with the Nexus 7 (When Microsoft had the Surface 1, but they didn't, they were too stupid to comprehend the S1 was overpriced, and they made a load expecting demand, and then they had to sell them off cheaper, but they actually did sell them, and then they sold off the S2's for cheaper, the pros for cheaper etc. Microsoft did well in the end to sell the product, but only when it had deep discounts did they off them in the masses)
 
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Martini1991 said:
The S2 has been unavailable for months.

Microsoft could have done what google did with the Nexus 7 (When Microsoft had the Surface 1, but they didn't, they were too stupid to comprehend the S1 was overpriced, and they made a load expecting demand, and then they had to sell them off cheaper, but they actually did sell them, and then they sold off the S2's for cheaper, the pros for cheaper etc. Microsoft did well in the end to sell the product, but only when it had deep discounts did they off them in the masses)
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"was"

And how well did the Nexus 10 do for Google?
 
Can't believe how do many people seem to be ignoring that S3 isn't even remotely supposed to be mass market. It's an expensive high end flagship device which will replace laptop and tablet for a lot of people.

Microsoft is about Windows, it's apps and services, not trying to become Apple. S3 doesn't compete with Yoga or the other Windows tablets and two in ones, it s there to provide a premium high end option and complement the devices produced by Microsoft's partners, not compete with them.

Wailing that it will never dominate the market is missing the fundamental point on an epic scale. If anything it's designed and priced to very specifically appeal to a particular market and not go after Microsoft's Windows OEM partners.

Wow this thread escalated quickly... Just pause for a second and think it through.
 
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Macro said:
Can't believe how do many people seem to be ignoring that S3 isn't even remotely supposed to be mass market. It's an expensive high end flagship device which will replace laptop and tablet for a lot of people.

Microsoft is about Windows, it's apps and services, not trying to become Apple. S3 doesn't compete with Yoga or the other Windows tablets and two in ones, it s there to provide a premium high end option and complement the devices produced by Microsoft's partners.

Wailing that it will never dominate the market is missing the fundamental point in an epic scale. If anything it's designed and prices to very specifically appeal to a specific market and not go after Microsoft's Windows OEM partners.

Wow this thread escalated quickly... Just pause for a second and think it through.
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So, Microsoft didn't release Windows RT and the Surface 1 to go after the general consumer and target the same market as the iPad? It's also not a high end flagship device. How on Earth can the S3 be a flagship?! And then why will it replace the tablet for a lot of people?

Realistically, it's not an expensive device, it's expensive in consumer space relative to other options however.
 
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S1 and S2 were totally different devices going specifically after what was viewed as the dedicated iPad type tablet market at the time.

S3 as well as being a credible tablet makes on face value for a decent x64 mid range laptop with no lack of applications available for it compared to S1 &2.

I could see it being used by plenty to replace having a separate laptop and iPad.
 
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It certainly is meant to be mass market and certainly does compete with apple and android. Especially now MS have released office for those platforms.
You guys thinking it's not a high end mass market device are the deluded ones.

Ms need mass market penetration to up the app store numbers and recoup their loss revenues, by giving w10 away for free. It's free, due to the expectations of paid services, app store, office 365, Skype etc. So they most certainly do need mass market penetration.

For that it is most definitely priced to high.

If they want a middle of the road, then that's what core m is for.
 
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Macro said:
Can't believe how do many people seem to be ignoring that S3 isn't even remotely supposed to be mass market. It's an expensive high end flagship device which will replace laptop and tablet for a lot of people.
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Um the surface (ie non pro) is meant to be the mass market product... the pro is for 'professionals'.

And I'm sticking to my opinion that the surface 3 is about £100-150 too expensive compared with other similar spec'd windows convertibles, even considering the materials in use.
 
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