was that a private sell or bay of E ?
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was that a private sell or bay of E ?
It is almost a year old (June),
However if I was MS I would wait till Sept/October.
A) that's when w10 is likely to be released, it's meant to be hitting RTM in July, then it's usually 3 months till official release
B) skip broadwell and go straight for skylake
However this is MS and some if their choices have been dismal.
Still no signs of any updated Chinese tablets with cherry tail.
However if I was MS I would wait till Sept/October.
A) that's when w10 is likely to be released, it's meant to be hitting RTM in July, then it's usually 3 months till official release
B) skip broadwell and go straight for skylake
However this is MS and some if their choices have been dismal.
Still no signs of any updated Chinese tablets with cherry tail.
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Caporegime
Neither, it was purchased out of company stock, like I say, I'm with a mobile/device/electronics recycler.
Got myself a 32GB Surface RT for free the other day, with the keyboard (the proper one). Nicely-built machine, decent performance, but it's oh-so-useless. Putting aside my dislike of Windows 8, the selection of available apps is just awful, and the desktop mode would be completely pointless were it not for Office. The worst part is that in their efforts to provide the full Windows 8 experience (without all of the benefits of x86) you're stuck having to install a frankly staggering number of updates after a full system reset. It's really not a very good user experience.
Still, it'll do fine for what I need it for, it's just a shame there's not a lot I can really do with it. Makes me wonder why they didn't just go for an Atom CPU instead though.
Still, it'll do fine for what I need it for, it's just a shame there's not a lot I can really do with it. Makes me wonder why they didn't just go for an Atom CPU instead though.
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Down to poor timing and who could see the lack of apps being so chronic?
The Surface 2 is almost exactly what I need hardware wise but the lack of apps makes it redundant.
Caporegime
And this is why the Surface 3 went x86, and RT died 
Very tempted to get an SP3 but think I'll wait until Windows 10 and the SP4s to get released.
I want to use it as a dedicated development machine with Visual Studio. Will plug it into a TV at times too for a bit of gaming perhaps. Like the sound of Xbox One streaming possibilities too.
I want to use it as a dedicated development machine with Visual Studio. Will plug it into a TV at times too for a bit of gaming perhaps. Like the sound of Xbox One streaming possibilities too.
Skylark refence tablet showed off at computek, not much info and really short, but 7.9mm thick, usbc, 3d rear camera 4k display.
I can't see any air vents which would suggest fanless, but its such a short clip it hard to tell.
I really hope that the gfx is substantially better than Haswell, I dint need more CPU power, just want more gfx.
I hope we get lots of skylark tablets.
Hopefully we'll get some hands on soon enough.
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I can't see any air vents which would suggest fanless, but its such a short clip it hard to tell.
I really hope that the gfx is substantially better than Haswell, I dint need more CPU power, just want more gfx.
I hope we get lots of skylark tablets.
Hopefully we'll get some hands on soon enough.
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Caporegime
I agree about the video performance, my i5 SP3 is more than enough CPU wise, but (at least) double the video performance would be great.
If it could have about double the performance of a gefore gt 540m I would be very happy.
The i7 version of pro 3 was 602 on CPU benchmark for gfx.
540m is 678
However CPU wise even the i3 is a third fast than current laptop, i5 twice as fast and i7 almost three times as fast. So CPU on i5 skylake will be great, it's all down to gfx.
However surface pro 3 is Haskell, so two generations behind skylake.
The i7 version of pro 3 was 602 on CPU benchmark for gfx.
540m is 678
However CPU wise even the i3 is a third fast than current laptop, i5 twice as fast and i7 almost three times as fast. So CPU on i5 skylake will be great, it's all down to gfx.
However surface pro 3 is Haskell, so two generations behind skylake.
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Soldato
And there in lies the problem, its about time that Surface got NEW CPU tech not a few generations old...
It did get new, their release schedule was like 2 months before the new chips.
Which is why I hope they delay the launch of pro 4.
But then broadwell was massively delayed by intel.
Soldato
Well, I just jumped on to the Surface Pro 3 wagon.....Essentials bundle on Microsoft store means I have an i7 256GB, keyboard cover, Maroo leather case and Office Home for £1,212 arriving soon 
Plan is to use as my work machine, replacing P35K I use currently, although will keep the laptop as 'base' machine. iPad Air 4G will be sold, as won't need anymore....of course, SP4 is going to come along sometime, but - for now - I think the SP3 will be just the perfect machine
Plan is to use as my work machine, replacing P35K I use currently, although will keep the laptop as 'base' machine. iPad Air 4G will be sold, as won't need anymore....of course, SP4 is going to come along sometime, but - for now - I think the SP3 will be just the perfect machine
Soldato
HI all.. I've got my eye on a Surface Pro but noticed there is some talk of the Surface Pro 4 coming to soon.. is there any indication of a release date?
Soldato
Would make sense for them to release it around the Windows 10 launch date...
It depends what they do, I'm hopping they'll wait till ~October then it can have a skylark CPU. Any earlier and it'll be Broadwell.
Still cannot belive what Intel or MS has done with surface 3, sisters over in USA, and was going through reviews. Not a chance I can get one with the stupid 13w charger, just wtf, were they thing, the surface rt and surface 2 have 45w iirc.
All the reviews slate it. And saying 6 hours to charge if off, significantly longer if you are using it. So basically if you are using it, the battery wont drain but will barely charge. What a massive step backwards.
I hope it's not an Intel issue and all other cherry trails have stupidly small chargers on.
Maybe I should look at core M, but then if your doing that straight to pro 4 but I have not gone for a pro due to cost.
Why did they %%%% it up so badly.
Still cannot belive what Intel or MS has done with surface 3, sisters over in USA, and was going through reviews. Not a chance I can get one with the stupid 13w charger, just wtf, were they thing, the surface rt and surface 2 have 45w iirc.
All the reviews slate it. And saying 6 hours to charge if off, significantly longer if you are using it. So basically if you are using it, the battery wont drain but will barely charge. What a massive step backwards.
I hope it's not an Intel issue and all other cherry trails have stupidly small chargers on.
Maybe I should look at core M, but then if your doing that straight to pro 4 but I have not gone for a pro due to cost.
Why did they %%%% it up so badly.
Soldato
*Skylake. 