***The Official Nokia Lumia 920 Thread***

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Looks like a Friday trip into town tomorrow then. Amazon.de seem slow at returning funds after cancelling the order.

Get the bank to issue a charge back,

Seems to me that knowingly taking your money in the knowledge they could not provide the merchandise promised is dishonest and immoral at best.
Being slow to give you a refund is inexcusable for a firm with their size and reputation.
 
Get the bank to issue a charge back,

Seems to me that knowingly taking your money in the knowledge they could not provide the merchandise promised is dishonest and immoral at best.
Being slow to give you a refund is inexcusable for a firm with their size and reputation.

I clicked a cancel button, so it's an automated process. So I suspect it happens in a batch job at the end of the day. So long as it is back in the bank for tomorrow I'm not too bothered. At least it will force me to sit back and wait, we might all be buying SIM free unlocked phones tomorrow from Phones 4U.
 
And why the 8S instead of the 8X? Better resolution, plsu, the 8S only have 512MB RAM.

£££

I should be able to get the 8S on a cheap 12 month contract. The 8X is going to be not far off the 920 so no point. Could go with the 820 if that's cheap but i prefer the look of the 8S - of course it will also depend on it getting the Nokia apps to some extent.

I'm not that fussed about the innards of the device. My Lumia 710 is very quick and never had any issues. I'm more interested in 4G than a top range device so if I can save up over the year and still be on a W8 device then i'll be happy. Hopefully by then the other networks will have started getting their 4G networks sorted out.
 
Is there anywhere to pre-order this sim-free and unlocked at the moment? I am not in a massive rush so am happy to wait a few weeks, but it would be nice to get it ordered.
 
Is there anywhere to pre-order this sim-free and unlocked at the moment? I am not in a massive rush so am happy to wait a few weeks, but it would be nice to get it ordered.

As above doesn't seem to be unless you fancy paying over the odds for this: http://www.mobicity.co.uk/nokia-lumia-920-uk.html

I did ask them where they got their stock from a week or so ago and they said "European stock, fully unlocked"
 
£££

I should be able to get the 8S on a cheap 12 month contract. The 8X is going to be not far off the 920 so no point. Could go with the 820 if that's cheap but i prefer the look of the 8S - of course it will also depend on it getting the Nokia apps to some extent.

I'm not that fussed about the innards of the device. My Lumia 710 is very quick and never had any issues. I'm more interested in 4G than a top range device so if I can save up over the year and still be on a W8 device then i'll be happy. Hopefully by then the other networks will have started getting their 4G networks sorted out.

The 8x is a fair bit cheaper than the 920. Prices have appeared today for all networks as well.
 
I tried really hard to convince myself to get an 820, but just wasn't willing to drop the screen res down to that level
Thing is, when I saw the screen on the older 900, I thought it looked fine, so I know it would be even better on the 820, it would just bug me knowing that there is better out there..
 
I tried really hard to convince myself to get an 820, but just wasn't willing to drop the screen res down to that level
Thing is, when I saw the screen on the older 900, I thought it looked fine, so I know it would be even better on the 820, it would just bug me knowing that there is better out there..

The 820 isn't a big enough leap over my 800 to bother with it. The Samsung or the 8x are the alternatives. The annoying thing is I've bought a QI charger ready and only Nokia has the QI charging built in.

I've written an email to Steve Ballmer stating how exclusivity is harming WP8 sales. I doubt I will get a reply, but it's worth a shot :) (hopefully I'm out of range, I don't want to have to dodge flying chairs).
 

The Reg said:
The other disappointment is that the user-facing bits of Windows Phone – the portions you interact with the most – are very much the same as a year ago. Microsoft has made the radical changes under the hood, but otherwise Windows Phone has has foregone a year of updates. The phone manufacturers needed a new OS for the Christmas selling season and Microsoft simply ran out of the time it would have devoted to tweaking the apps.

Don't see them talking about iOS or Android with that tone, do we?
 
The 820 isn't a big enough leap over my 800 to bother with it. The Samsung or the 8x are the alternatives. The annoying thing is I've bought a QI charger ready and only Nokia has the QI charging built in.

I've written an email to Steve Ballmer stating how exclusivity is harming WP8 sales. I doubt I will get a reply, but it's worth a shot :) (hopefully I'm out of range, I don't want to have to dodge flying chairs).

It is a much bigger leap. Just because it has the same resolution screen doesn't mean they are too similar. It has Dual core, 1gb RAM, SD slot, better camera, replaceable battery and covers, wireless charging support and NFC. Plus WP8 over 7.5. How is not a big leap?
 
It is a much bigger leap. Just because it has the same resolution screen doesn't mean they are too similar. It has Dual core, 1gb RAM, SD slot, better camera, replaceable battery and covers, wireless charging support and NFC. Plus WP8 over 7.5. How is not a big leap?

That and the opportunity to get a ruggerized case to protect the phone more - Great for people like me. Argh, the decision and wait is killing me.
 
Don't see them talking about iOS or Android with that tone, do we?

No and while iOS is just as guilty it has a lot less to prove than Windows Phone. Part of the disconnect is we've been told WP 8 is going to solve all these issues we've been having and the whole thing's been rewritten yet it looks and feels very much like WP7.*

I'm in agreement with what they wrote:

The Register said:
But in such a competitive market, where the rival platforms were already more mature, it is odd and disappointing to find so little improvement to the built-in apps. Every Windows Phone 7.x user (and there aren’t many) will have their own list of must-fixes – and most will be disappointed.

Music playback and the ringer still share the same volume setting – in practice this means missed calls, I found. We should, by now – and remember, this is version 3.0 of the platform – be able to flag email messages as important. Or Mark All as read, or (as per Blackberry) ‘Mark Prior Read’. We can’t favestar Tweets in the People hub. There’s no notification aggregator yet. Microsoft admitted it ran out of time on this one.
 
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It is a much bigger leap. Just because it has the same resolution screen doesn't mean they are too similar. It has Dual core, 1gb RAM, SD slot, better camera, replaceable battery and covers, wireless charging support and NFC. Plus WP8 over 7.5. How is not a big leap?

I want a bigger screen to make typing easier.
 
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