****The Official Note III Thread****

Diagro said:
Did expansys take the money from your account already? They did for me when it explicitly says they wouldn't. The lieing sods
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It appears they did although it's been taken as "holding" where the bank holds the amount until the store requests the payment to be taken. Kind of defeats the objective of not taking payment!
 
The phone has up to 64GB internal and 128GB SDXC storage so transferring large volumes of data will take far less time, it will be up to 10 times faster. (480Mbps vs 4.8Gbps)

USB 3 provides greater charge current at 900mA vs 500.
 
mrk said:
The phone has up to 64GB internal and 128GB SDXC storage so transferring large volumes of data will take far less time, it will be up to 10 times faster. (480Mbps vs 4.8Gbps)

USB 3 provides greater charge current at 900mA vs 500.
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Lulz - show me stats where the phone storage is capable of exceeding USB 2 write speeds of upto 35MB/s.

USB 3 charging - The only mildly useful advantage. If your that bothered you'd use a 2A wall adapter.
 
kona786 said:
Lulz - show me stats where the phone storage is capable of exceeding USB 2 write speeds of upto 35MB/s.

USB 3 charging - The only mildly useful advantage. If your that bothered you'd use a a wall adapter.
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Wall adapters are not available on non 1st class public transport or on the move, a USB3 port on compatible laptops can charge devices during sleep so yeah that's useful.

As for transfer speeds. We need a USB3 phone to test first of which there are none currently. But do you think Samsung will have put in a USB3 controller on such a device and then gimped it by leaving it at USB2 speeds? That would be pretty absurd.

For the record my 1st gen 64GB Sandisk Micro sdxc is rated to 30MB/s read and lower write. Using SD tester on the Note II it gets 10.1MB/s write and 18.1 read. You would not get 18.1MB/s reading to that card over USB2 and I just tested it in Mass Storage mode which resulted in 15MB/s read and 12-13MB/s write via my PC.

So the fact that the N2 can handle slightly faster internal speeds to the SD card vs over USB2 confirms the it's more than doable and is reasonable to say that a USB3 model of a handset will exceed USB2 speeds reading and writing to storage media.

If a 128GB card comes out at a fair price then I'll take advantage of the added speeds of the new gen model.
 
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mrk said:
Wall adapters are not available on non 1st class public transport or on the move, a USB3 port on compatible laptops can charge devices during sleep so yeah that's useful.

As for transfer speeds. We need a USB3 phone to test first of which there are none currently. But do you think Samsung will have put in a USB3 controller on such a device and then gimped it by leaving it at USB2 speeds? That would be pretty absurd.

For the record my 1st gen 64GB Sandisk Micro sdxc is rated to 30MB/s read and lower write. Using SD tester on the Note II it gets 10.1MB/s write and 18.1 read. You would not get 18.1MB/s reading to that card over USB2 and I just tested it in Mass Storage mode which resulted in 15MB/s read and 12-13MB/s write via my PC.

So the fact that the N2 can handle slightly faster internal speeds to the SD card vs over USB2 confirms the it's more than doable and is reasonable to say that a USB3 model of a handset will exceed USB2 speeds reading and writing to storage media.

If a 128GB card comes out at a fair price then I'll take advantage of the added speeds of the new gen model.
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I don't think the Android apps that measure sd card speeds are very accurate. I used two different apps and got very different speeds. SD card tester and A1 SD Bench.

Results: A1 SD then SD tester. Galaxy S4.

internal sd 27 write/ 27 read and the other app - 12.5w/21.6r (2GB file)

external sd - 9.6write / 18.8 read and 12.3w/12.9r (2GB file)


I also copied a 1.07GB MS outlooks data file - it took 119secs to copy to external sd - so about 8.5MB/s

copied to internal memory - 59 secs - ~17MB/s write (a lot faster than one of the benchmarks)


My external SD card is a 64GB samsung (Transfer Speed: Up to 70 MB/s Read and up to 20 MB/s Write). So I'm a bit confused why it copied so slow to the extSD (8.5MB/s) when the USB port can handle at least 17MB/s.

extSD is on fat32 but I don't think that makes a difference.


I think theres a lot more to it like F2FS vs EXT4 that should improve speeds, not just upping the port capacity. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/9

So after my quick testing, if USB3 indeed unlocks performance on this storage I'll be very surprised. I don't know why we can't get USB 2 speeds of upto 35MB/s on phones. Looks like there's a lot of overheads slowing it down so it wouldn't make a difference if you used USB 3.
 
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I am pretty confident we will see a good transfer speed increase with USB3 on the Note 3 vs all other devices on USB2.

Implementing USB3 on a phone takes R&D time and lots of money. If it didn't have significant gains then they would have stick with USB2.
 
They will stick to exFat for the sd card as that's tried and tested but for internal could be different. Also Android 4.3 has self trimming doesn't it so I expect this will also result in a better performing file system all round as well
 
Excuse the noob question but would there be any way to root the Note 2/3 so that I can use features that need root but also be able to use Sky Go without problems?
 
tbh I feel a bit swizzed, Note 3 launched nearly a week ago now, and still no details from anywhere about contract prices with that phone.
Apple release their new phones just two days ago, and people are getting them Monday!! and you can to various providers and sign up knowing how much it will cost you.
I don't like the fact that samsung have steamed in there "look at our awesome phone - here it is!!!"........ "OK when can I buy it find out about pricing?"........ "yeah ermmm soon, well soonish - it's on the to do list"
(typed not as an apple fan btw)
 
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