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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **
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Depends on software support - no one is going to implement ray tracing in their game only to have to support traditional paths for other platforms as well. Without an easy way to handle both at software level its not going to happen.
14/16nm processes are still completely unsuitable for GPU's. Best we can hope for within a year or so is a 20/22nm GPU.
Soldato
I think my last card is actually going to be the Titan X, It's heresy I know but the rig I have now I think is going to be my last as well, Pumped way too much money into rigs over the years, I could have bought a car, A motorbike and had about 5 holidays 
But I will be keeping an eye out on these cards and tech in the future
But I will be keeping an eye out on these cards and tech in the future
That's a good point that I had not thought about. If ray tracing is just for light and shadows the game with ray tracing will be cheaper, faster and easier to develop for. The 2nd platform without ray tracing will need extra work but that work would have to be done even if the first game didn't have ray tracing. Would that still be a problem?
But if ray tracing is done for things other then lights and shadows then extra work will be created to port it over which is something I had not thought about.
Anyway we might not even get ray tracing in the next consoles. I was just trying to say not to be shocked if the next consoles have something other then 5 year old hardware. We might end up with SoC in consoles soon for cost reasons.
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Soldato
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I think my last card is actually going to be the Titan X, It's heresy I know but the rig I have now I think is going to be my last as well, Pumped way too much money into rigs over the years, I could have bought a car, A motorbike and had about 5 holidays
But I will be keeping an eye out on these cards and tech in the future
Exactly. Upgrading is costing to much lately. I might just do smaller rigs with less powerful gpus in the future. All this upgrading every 6 months is costing a arm and a leg. Titan X will be my last high end card as well. Can't keep doing this.
Caporegime
I think my last card is actually going to be the Titan X, It's heresy I know but the rig I have now I think is going to be my last as well, Pumped way too much money into rigs over the years, I could have bought a car, A motorbike and had about 5 holidays
But I will be keeping an eye out on these cards and tech in the future
LOL Dice, I say this every time and agree totally but then I get lured in by tech talk and the hype trains and before you know it, I am sweating like a paedo in a playground with repeated F5ing on release day
Consoles launched Q4 2013
Assume 5 year cycle: chips have to be set in stone 2016
Assume 7 year cycle: 2018
It's possible I suppose to have a Pascal or Arctic in there, but they really should try and hang on for 10nm-class stuff. Will they cheap out again?
Assume 5 year cycle: chips have to be set in stone 2016
Assume 7 year cycle: 2018
It's possible I suppose to have a Pascal or Arctic in there, but they really should try and hang on for 10nm-class stuff. Will they cheap out again?
Soldato
Why change the habit of a life time
20nm/22nm GPU? Man you crazy
. Next process for GPU is 14nm/16nm FinFET+ Likely (CLN16FF+) especially for Nvidia. So is BEOL 20nm SOC (CLN20SOC). But it is called 16nm. 16nm FF+ that is most likely.
I think my last card is actually going to be the Titan X, It's heresy I know but the rig I have now I think is going to be my last as well, Pumped way too much money into rigs over the years, I could have bought a car, A motorbike and had about 5 holidays
But I will be keeping an eye out on these cards and tech in the future
Lol, I often think this way and then end up buying them all anyway
It's not that expensive really compared to some hobbys. Can spend just as much going out drinking at weekends tbh.
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Ok so I fully expect NVidia to bring us small Pascal first GPx04, as they have done for the last couple of generations. I reckon this chip will have HBM 2, but the interesting chip will be the one below this the one to replace the 960, will this also have HBM 2 or do you reckon they will go with a GDDR5 part for this tier of card, maybe 256bit or maybe even just use a rebranded 980. It would probably be about right performance wise. I wouldn't be surprised if Pascal only appears as new chips on the top two tiers GPx00 GPx04
The real interesting thing will be what AMD do, they will have to come up with a few HBM designs as they have already rebranded the 200 series to 300 series.
The real interesting thing will be what AMD do, they will have to come up with a few HBM designs as they have already rebranded the 200 series to 300 series.
Yeah man, the new X60 card could be a lil beast. I've been using the GTX 960 while waiting for my RMA and GTX 980 Ti to arrive. Tbh it's a great lil card. If the new X60 comes with HBM 2.0, new architecture and die shrink it could be a real beast. Just depends whether Nvidia actually give their whole range HBM 2.0 or some lower down cards stick with GDDR5. But the new architecture and die shrink alone will bring something to the table. AMD have already commented on the next line up featuring HBM from top to bottom. So should be a whole new lineup next time around.
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That is good to hear.
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LOL Dice, I say this every time and agree totally but then I get lured in by tech talk and the hype trains and before you know it, I am sweating like a paedo in a playground with repeated F5ing on release day
What you need to do Gregster is every time you see a new graphic card and you start to break out into a sweat tell the Mrs to give you a slap.
Soldato
LOL Dice, I say this every time and agree totally but then I get lured in by tech talk and the hype trains and before you know it, I am sweating like a paedo in a playground with repeated F5ing on release day
Well starting next year for a few years it's going to get really busy for me so I need all the funds I can get and my job is starting to get very serious so play time is over for me as of March next year.
The only thing I'll be using a computer for will be emails and spreadsheets
I imagine consoles won't be re-done until there's a wider adoption for 4K TVs & with that a bit higher prices for consoles, like 500, but capable of doing 4K modestly. So, realistically, around 2017 probably but 2018 wouldn't be a stretch either.
Might as well wait for the 1080Ti
Joking aside with the difference between the 980ti and titan x I may end up better getting the 1080Ti. But it all depends if I can hold out any longer...