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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

Reading some emotional comments from current TI owners, if your planting down over half a grand for a GPU you should know the score really, It's not cheap to stay at this end of GPU market, I only bought my TI in September last year, not even 8 months ago, am I annoyed? not really, I've whacked my card up for sale and if someone should bite at a good price then cool, if not no worries, it's still a nice performing card.

Even if I sell my card for peanuts and I have to chip in £300 I'm not too bothered really, I know people that spend more on coffee a year than that, as a low earner I try to live quite a frugal lifestyle in many area's to pay for my hobbies, a lot of this is psychology as well, your card still performs as it should, a new card doesn't suddenly take anything away from that.

NirK said:
Sort of makes me just want to swap my 3440x1440 for a 2560x1080p monitor and just get the 970/1070 version every year, unfortunately 2560x1080 at 35" looks pretty bad for normal usage like web browsing etc.

Hopefully the 1080ti will be really good, but then it is not a nice feeling when they release a mid range card a year later which beats it.

I assume this release will be more of an increase than usual because of 28nm > 16nm.
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I've been very temped to grab a Z35 (2560x1080 screen) when it lowers in price, the biggested wow factor of 21:9 monitors is the aspect ratio not the resolution imo.
 
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Vertigo1 said:
It's always been this way at the high end. Just as the 980Ti made a mockery of the £1000 TitanX, the 1070 will make a mockery of the £500 980Ti. Nothing depreciates like computer hardware and no computer hardware depreciates like a graphics card. Buying the top-end card is always a recipe for losing money.
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Brand new Rover cars did :D the depreciation was really scary.
 
Did they show one of these "founders editions" with the supposed better cooler? All the pics i've seen so far just seem to show the same cooler. Unless the higher price one is a vapour chamber and the lower price a heatsink assembly under the shroud.
 
Will probably go for a 1080 FE, plus a waterblock. Will wait for the real world tests as the 2x performance relates to a very specific set up that i dont have. Then i'll probably buy the ti when that comes out too.
 
The 980Ti is still just as awesome a card as it was yesterday and I'd still love one myself (have a 970).

The point I was making with high-end cards is by all means buy one if you actually need the performance but buying high-end when you don't need the performance right now, in some attempt to future-proof yourself, is a mug's game.
 
NirK said:
So the 1080 at 2.1Ghz is 20% faster than a 980ti is that correct?

Is that a stock or overclocked 980ti?

it is taking the p**s out of buyers a bit if an overclocked 1070 beats and overclocked 980ti, I don't think it will, but it might.

The 980ti was not reelased long ago, I am completely fine with the 1080 beating the 980ti, but if a 1070 beats 980ti then that just completely destroyed the resale value of the 980ti just over a year after release.

Surely the 1070 with a 256bit bus and GDDR5 cannot be as good as a 1080ti at high resolutions.
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The 980Ti has been out a year. It has had its day and will be resigned to the bargain bins in a months time. A year is a long time in the tech world.

You should be happy, the 780Ti only had a bout 10 months before it was replaced by the cheaper and more efficient 900 series and sold off for £300.
 
My first reaction was to look at selling my 980TI, but after thinking about it for a few hours, I don't think it's all that sensible. Obviously what I'm about to say is based on my own requirements, but I suspect most people are not so far from my set up.

I game at 2560 x 1440, TW3 at max settings including the silly hair thing took me to around 50-55fps. There is no other game on the market that I'm aware of that is more demanding. Looking ahead this year, I can't say I'm all that excited. Total War: Warhammer for sure, probably Dishonored 2 and maybe the new battlefield. I'm quite sure I'll be able to run the first 2 at max settings and Battlefield will be close to it. (max settings can be subjective, some people would naturally consider it 60FPS, I'm happy with max settings at a more than acceptable frame rate, a steady 50 is good for me)

So, OK VR is very demanding. But a 980TI is more than enough for all current games and let's face it, quite when a truly demanding epic game will be out on VR is any ones guess.

And then we come to the actual hardware that will be released from Nvidia in the next few weeks. Yes, it looks awesome. But so far all we have is a few dodgy leaks and what Nvidia's marketing arm is telling us. Remember AMD's overclocking dream... Also, this is the first gen cards of a new fab process. I'm not certain I'd want to be the first in line just yet.

Ask yourself, do you really need a card better than a 980Ti? I guess if you can get 350+ for your current card, then it's possibly worth the upgrade. But I'm going to try and wait until I actually own some software that makes my 980Ti cry, I suspect by the time that happens the 1080Ti will be on the horizon and we will all be a lot wiser about these new Nvidia cards. Yes, the 980Ti will continue to lose value, but i'm sure the 1080 will come down in price as the 1080Ti launches. Look on the bay now, the 780Ti still sells for a reasonable amount, even now.
 
if anyone that want to sell their 980Ti and get 1080 , when 1080ti out end of the year then they will want that too. i guess Christmas come many times a year :)
 
Only going to bother upgrading if its worth it in the games i play, doesn't really make sense to upgrade just for the sake of saying i have a new card.
 
Gerard said:
Only going to bother upgrading if its worth it in the games i play, doesn't really make sense to upgrade just for the sake of saying i have a new card.
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I think for 980Ti users, the 1080 isnt a must have upgrade unless you have to have the fastest all the time.

For all the people on 970's and 980's (and lower) it will be a fantastic upgrade though.
 
1 thing is sure thou, i dont want to see 1080 relative to 980Ti, but 1080 to FuryX performance, the state of the maxwell drivers lately make me think they might be brought down specifically for this purpose, i might be wrong.
 
Just watching the press conference, did anyone else notice some moron girl basically parroting everything he said on stage? Getting on my nerves and i'm only 10 minutes into it. :mad:
 
I have a 970 but game at 1200p.

Logic says an upgrade is the 1070, but I've never had a flagship card or CPU before so would be hard to resist.

However the rest of the PC wouldn't do a 1070 or 1080 justice.

3570k
16Gb ram
SSD

If I did get a new card not only would I need a completely new rig, but I would need a new monitor as well to do it justice.
 
I just hope i can sell my 980ti before the resale value plummets cause i have no dount that it will if it hasn't already. Now as ive said in another thread i have no plans to purchase pascal(would only be changed if something horrible happens to AMDs offering) as im looking for something a bit more mainstream for the next few years. I only play games like heartstone anyway and perhaps a tad BF4 and diablo 3. They dont exactly require top of the line GPUs.
 
With the 1070 being faster than the 980 Ti, there are gonna be some crazy bargains on Ti's when the 1070 pricing settles. If you can get a brand new 1070 for £250 ~ £300 the second hand 980 Ti price will plummet. Some good bargains for people a few months down the line.
 
Boomstick777 said:
With the 1070 being faster than the 980 Ti, there are gonna be some crazy bargains on Ti's when the 1070 pricing settles. If you can get a brand new 1070 for £250 ~ £300 the second hand 980 Ti price will plummet. Some good bargains for people a few months down the line.
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Unfortunately with an RRP at $379 and the current exchange rate as it is, i don't think we will see 1070's for less than £300. I suspect they will only start at that or just above.
 
Jono8 said:
Unfortunately with an RRP at $379 and the current exchange rate as it is, i don't think we will see 1070's for less than £300. I suspect they will only start at that or just above.
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Plus factor in early adopter tax and the much vaunted bs of "supply and demand" which allows retailers to pump consumers hard.
 
I have saved those "faster than 980 SLI" and "2X faster than TX" slides. They are outright lies.

edit: And the 1070 is 450USD = 312GBP +20% + gouging = £450. Funny how they always make it cost the same in pounds.
 
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