But the 1070 MIGHT be slower than the 980Ti in certain instances. Anyone taking Nvidia at their word and thinking the 1070 will smash the Titan x2 in everything... wow, OK, I'll have whatever you're smoking please! Benchmarks and reviews will reveal all, but the absence of this information renders certain offers on a Ti card today utterly ridiculous. One could argue the Ti value is in limbo until we know more, but there is no sudden price drop YET... there may be one, once we have further information, but you are very much jumping the gun by taking marketing speak as fact, which as experience and history should have taught you by now is a risky thing to do.
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But the 1070 MIGHT be slower than the 980Ti in certain instances. Anyone taking Nvidia at their word and thinking the 1070 will smash the Titan x2 in everything... wow, OK, I'll have whatever you're smoking please! Benchmarks and reviews will reveal all, but the absence of this information renders certain offers on a Ti card today utterly ridiculous. One could argue the Ti value is in limbo until we know more, but there is no sudden price drop YET... there may be one, once we have further information, but you are very much jumping the gun by taking marketing speak as fact, which as experience and history should have taught you by now is a risky thing to do.
Ah now! I think we have a decent idea at this stage!
GPUs depreciate very fast when next gen arrives. Always been the way, sods law.
I will give you the numbers based on the only actual numbers that have been released.
1080 leaked firestrike extreme score of 10100 is at 1860mhz, which is 8% higher than the 1733 default boost speed.
The graphics score in that benchmark is similar to a 980ti at about 1500mhz, or if you knock off the 8% overclock similar to about 1400-1450mhz 980ti.
The numbers released for the 1080 and 1070 are :
1080 - 9 Tflops
1070 - 6.5 Tflops
9 Tflops is 38% higher than 6.5 Tflops...
The 1080 has 320Gb/s ~980ti
The 1070 has 250Gb/s ~980
1080 is 599/699
1070 is 380/450
That is the information currently available about the speed of the 1080 and 1070, if the 3Dmark leak is not fake.
This is far more information than "GFX KID" or whoever else contributed in about 500 posts repeating what the guy in the leather jacket said and repeatedly saying the 980ti will drop to almost nothing.
1080 leaked firestrike extreme score of 10100 is at 1860mhz, which is 8% higher than the 1733 default boost speed.
The graphics score in that benchmark is similar to a 980ti at about 1500mhz, or if you knock off the 8% overclock similar to about 1400-1450mhz 980ti.
The numbers released for the 1080 and 1070 are :
1080 - 9 Tflops
1070 - 6.5 Tflops
9 Tflops is 38% higher than 6.5 Tflops...
The 1080 has 320Gb/s ~980ti
The 1070 has 250Gb/s ~980
1080 is 599/699
1070 is 380/450
That is the information currently available about the speed of the 1080 and 1070, if the 3Dmark leak is not fake.
This is far more information than "GFX KID" or whoever else contributed in about 500 posts repeating what the guy in the leather jacket said and repeatedly saying the 980ti will drop to almost nothing.
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RE: used prices- 980ti has been out a far while now, 780ti has been long since surpassed, yet I see the most recent one ended on ebay for £235+£8 post.
Even if you take into account the brutal MM here they were selling for £180 recently, so are we really saying a 980ti is only £20 better than a 980ti?
There will always be a steady demand for them because of SLI being a cheaper option than selling the 980ti at a loss and then stumping up another £500 for a 1080.
Either way I don't care, if the bottom falls out of used 980ti prices then like many others I'll just hang on to it, no skin off my nose, if others think the same way then folks will struggle picking up a cheap one.
Even if you take into account the brutal MM here they were selling for £180 recently, so are we really saying a 980ti is only £20 better than a 980ti?
There will always be a steady demand for them because of SLI being a cheaper option than selling the 980ti at a loss and then stumping up another £500 for a 1080.
Either way I don't care, if the bottom falls out of used 980ti prices then like many others I'll just hang on to it, no skin off my nose, if others think the same way then folks will struggle picking up a cheap one.
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^ I think people will still get fair prices for 980Ti's, but it doesn't help if people panic and all sell at once as it may drop the price faster.. Still not as bad as some have said though.
2014 the GTX 970 is released and gives 780ti performance for £300. One of Nvidia's best ever selling GPU's.
2016 1070 the TX/980ti beater at around £300 will be another huge seller for Nvidia, they have everything to gain by making sure people read reviews showing how a £300 1070 smashes a TX/980ti.
Jen is going to rock the market again.
2016 1070 the TX/980ti beater at around £300 will be another huge seller for Nvidia, they have everything to gain by making sure people read reviews showing how a £300 1070 smashes a TX/980ti.
Jen is going to rock the market again.
Please Nick, stop. You now just embarrassing yourself.
You said all this talk of the 980Ti price is getting tedious and the same info is getting posted over and over.
I then agree in an earlier post that all this is getting a bit tired and leave it at that, especially after seeing a mod come in and clear up the place.
What do you do? You decide to post more of the same adding nothing new yourself. Then you got the cheek to keep referring to me as a kid, while acting like one yourself...
Let's just leave it alone until the real reviews come out shall we?
I agree, they will. And I don't see anyone panicking, just a lot of silly people thinking they'll get a 980Ti in a few weeks for near 960 money lol! Only panicking going on will be those people when they realise this isn't going to happen!
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But it has to consistently beat the 980Ti, not just in the odd benchmark or 2, otherwise it won't be smashing it
lol I love being insulted by 15 year olds on internet forums. I want to read about the 1080 not pages of this bs. Your name says "kid" and you sound like a 15 yr old kid... I am twice your age, go and get mummy to make you a hot chocolate and get some sleep.Please Nick, stop. You now just embarrassing yourself.
You said all this talk of the 980Ti price is getting tedious and the same info is getting posted over and over.
I then agree in an earlier post that all this is getting a bit tired and leave it at that, especially after seeing a mod come in and clear up the place.
What do you do? You decide to post more of the same adding nothing new yourself. Then you got the cheek to keep referring to me as a kid, while acting like one yourself...
Let's just leave it alone until the real reviews come out shall we?
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But it has to consistently beat the 980Ti, not just in the odd benchmark or 2, otherwise it won't be smashing it
No it does not, it's new tech, runs cool with little power draw and has 8GB. Even if it was only on par who is buying an 980ti.
Well I suggest you start acting your age and take the high road instead of acting like a kid trying to get the last word in.
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Please Nick, stop. You now just embarrassing yourself.
You said all this talk of the 980Ti price is getting tedious and the same info is getting posted over and over.
I then agree in an earlier post that all this is getting a bit tired and leave it at that, especially after seeing a mod come in and clear up the place.
What do you do? You decide to post more of the same adding nothing new yourself. Then you got the cheek to keep referring to me as a kid, while acting like one yourself...
Let's just leave it alone until the real reviews come out shall we?
Errrrrr, since when is 980Ti prices going tedious? It's still 350+ in MM. - Oh sorry you don't have access
And I'm sure we're glad you agree to leave your funny opinion until an elaborated review is out, coz that's what we've always been saying - no one will know whether a 1070 will surpass a 980Ti until an independent review is out.
So glad you finally get that concept - Kid lol
You are funny, but what you don't realise is that you are describing yourself. Anyway enough of this bye.
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Oh boy am I glad I sold my 980 Ti classified for £500 3 weeks ago 
I do feel sorry on the bloke buying It though he should have known a new card was coming
as for the 1080 I'm calling BS right away on the leaked firestrike score as it has it at 1800mhz and JUST barely beating a 980 Ti whilst Nvidia has it boosting to 1700 at stock so according to that benchmark a stock 1080 would be slower than an overclocked 980 Ti which I can't see happening.... the 1070 on the other hand if this comes out at £300-£350 and beats the 980 Ti across the board ( every resolution, game, benchmark etc) then with 8gb Vram and only more optimisation coming it's way, couldn't justify spending £300 on a used 980 Ti which In every way would be worse, Vram, performance, power usages, heat etc.... if this turns out to be the case then expect 980 Tis to plummet to mid £250-£275
I do feel sorry on the bloke buying It though he should have known a new card was coming as for the 1080 I'm calling BS right away on the leaked firestrike score as it has it at 1800mhz and JUST barely beating a 980 Ti whilst Nvidia has it boosting to 1700 at stock so according to that benchmark a stock 1080 would be slower than an overclocked 980 Ti which I can't see happening.... the 1070 on the other hand if this comes out at £300-£350 and beats the 980 Ti across the board ( every resolution, game, benchmark etc) then with 8gb Vram and only more optimisation coming it's way, couldn't justify spending £300 on a used 980 Ti which In every way would be worse, Vram, performance, power usages, heat etc.... if this turns out to be the case then expect 980 Tis to plummet to mid £250-£275
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Honestly, what does it need 8GB for?
It's not like a 1070 can run AAA in 4K, and 1080/1440p has yet to use anywhere more than 6GB and no one would use a 1070 to render
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It does though if someone is saying it will smash it, otherwise no
assuming talking about pure power of course.
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Errrrrr, since when is 980Ti prices going tedious? It's still 350+ in MM. - Oh sorry you don't have access
And I'm sure we're glad you agree to leave your funny opinion until an elaborated review is out, coz that's what we've always been saying - no one will know whether a 1070 will surpass a 980Ti until an independent review is out.
So glad you finally get that concept - Kid lol
Surely it cannot be a coincidence that the only people finding this "kid's" posts unpalatable and feel the need to act like a bully are 980Ti owners?
Maybe you have problems reading, but agreed to leave it until reviews came out in interest of stopping all this from spiralling out of control and stoping the so called adults from embarrassing themselves.
And he does it again... Keep digging
Yep, bye bye Nick...
This is the last post from me on this subject until the reviews come out. Don't want to hurt the "adult" 980Ti owners around here, they so touchy