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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

I dont get what people are expecting. Percentage-wise, it's getting about as much of an improvement as at 1080p.

Anybody who understands what 4k means should have known this was not going to make 4k/60fps gaming a serious proposition.

yea looks like pascal need at least a 500-600mm² chip for 4k@60, if the next Ti is around 400mm² that wouldn't cut it.
 
It all depends on the price of the 80

If its over £500 which i suspect it will be more nearer to £600 then surly 2nd hand 980ti is the way to go. can not justify £250 £300 pound more to get 15 to 25% increase

512£ MSRP, early adopters taxe, should put it at £529-£549
 
How can it have such a higher clock speed and such small gains at 4k? didn't Nvidia say it would be considerably faster than the Titan? even the 1070? at 4K that is simply not going to be the case. 4/5fps gains on a 980Ti. I think you will be lucky to get 2/3fps gains over a Titan. We shall see.

Albeit the 1080 has a significant clock speed advantage but the 980ti has a lot of ROPs which help a lot with building the output at higher resolutions plus then there is the memory which doesn't help the 1080 to fill 4K resolutions.
 
It's important how it performs at 4K. Nobody needs this to perform well at 1080p. We already have cards that max out 1080p. so getting 300fps at 1080p is irrelevant. We want to game at 1440p and 4k now. The 1080p stuff is largely irrelevant because you can get a 970 or 390 that will smash 1080p anyway.
Totally agree, 1080p is getting pretty old nowadays - mostly anything can do that. So its kind-of a strange position nvidia has gone for, too much for 1080 but not enough for 4k (a few fps gain is nice but we really looking for a 40%+). Although it all depends on price - it may work out that its better to pick-up a second 980ti when the price reductions happen. Price is the deciding factor.
 
I dont get what people are expecting. Percentage-wise, it's getting about as much of an improvement as at 1080p.

Anybody who understands what 4k means should have known this was not going to make 4k/60fps gaming a serious proposition.

Yeh for example :

50% gain at 100fps = 150fps

50% gain at 20fps = 30fps

When the FPS gets low like 30 (eg. 4k) you are going to need cards literally 2 or 3 times as fast to get good framerates.
 
1440P is where my interest lies and of course VR. My next monitor purchase will be a HDR one, so I will be on this moni (ROG Swift) for quite some time.

For once I am quite happy to see the negative people in here, as they are keeping people's feet firmly planted by picking up on this and that :D
 
I was hoping for better at 4K, who cares about 1080 performance on these new cards, anyone running 1080 on this new hardware needs their head examined imo since prior generations are more than sufficient.
 
Yes, but at 980Ti prices ;)

If I remember correctly I paid about £500 each for my 780's on release so I wasnt really expecting great prices on the 1080's :p:)

The thing is there has to come a point when one upgrades, I mean where would the waiting end? I should imagine 2 x 1080's would see me on for years @2560 x 1440
 
If I remember correctly I paid about £500 each for my 780's on release so I wasnt really expecting great prices on the 1080's :p:)

The thing is there has to come a point when one upgrades, I mean where would the waiting end? I should imagine 2 x 1080's would see me on for years @2560 x 1440

the waiting end for me when the 1080ti or Vega is released.

Im not going to upgrade untill i get a card that does what my twin 290x's do.
 
I anticipate that a single (or even SLi) 1080 won't cut it for 4k gaming, and overkill for 1080.

1440 @ 120hz might be the sweet spot for this card.

May look into moving up from mt Xeon socket 1366 and 7970 to this, or potentially wait for team red to show something.
 
I anticipate that a single (or even SLi) 1080 won't cut it for 4k gaming, and overkill for 1080.

1440 @ 120hz might be the sweet spot for this card.

May look into moving up from mt Xeon socket 1366 and 7970 to this, or potentially wait for team red to show something.

If your in no rush then it makes sense to see the reds hand for sure.
 
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