** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

[X-Mikuru_Beam-X]

I anticipate that a single (or even SLi) 1080 won't cut it for 4k gaming, and overkill for 1080.

1440 @ 120hz might be the sweet spot for this card.

May look into moving up from mt Xeon socket 1366 and 7970 to this, or potentially wait for team red to show something.

It's only 1440p I'm interested in but fear all the charts are going to be 1080p vs 4K

 

[geordiejc]

>To all who are complaining about 4k performance<

We as 4k gamers NEVER use 8xMSAA. Its simply not needed. 2xMSAA is more than adequate and i never expected this card to use 8xMSAA upon reflection.

The drop in ROPS will impact on 4k performance too.

I was hoping for a great 4k Card. It may be superb at 4k with a bit of overclocking, but 8xMSAA is just too much to handle. i needed to stand back and manage my own expectations vs my initial comment.

hopefully more in-depth reviews to come WITH overclocking.

 

[DiscoDave]

If your in no rush then it makes sense to see the reds hand for sure.

Problem is I keep waiting and waiting as there's always something new round the corner.

I know people are getting excited about the 1080 (including myself) but I just have to take a step back and remember that 6 months from now it won't be anything special.

Plus I only play dota2, rocketleague and cs at the moment. Hardly demanding games.

But then again I'm going to buy Doom and if that creaks on my current setup that might force my hand

 

[MooMoo444]

And thats advantageous to me how?
I don't give a damn if the chip is 1mm or 20cm. I want it to be faster lol.

I think you'd have an issue if it was 20cm.

 

[AlamoX]

If I remember correctly I paid about £500 each for my 780's on release so I wasnt really expecting great prices on the 1080's

The thing is there has to come a point when one upgrades, I mean where would the waiting end? I should imagine 2 x 1080's would see me on for years @2560 x 1440

you will have cards 30-50% faster than 1080, with much higher bandwidth and memory, coming from 4 to 8 months from now.
upgrading 2x780 to a single 1080 should deliver the same performance, but more consistantly, and a bit better with overclock, i dont know if i would go 1080sli though.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Stutter and not work in most games?

Sorry, somebody had to and it is a joke before I get jumped on

Lol good stuff.

 

[flopper]

Problem is I keep waiting and waiting as there's always something new round the corner.

I know people are getting excited about the 1080 (including myself) but I just have to take a step back and remember that 6 months from now it won't be anything special.

Thats an issue with gpu cards for sure.
as long die shrinks is doable we will have a recently new card be surpassed massively within a few months.
the 980ti for example just become eol and its hardly 12 months old.

 

[X-Mikuru_Beam-X]

you will have cards 30-50% faster than 1080, with much higher bandwidth and memory, coming from 4 to 8 months from now.
upgrading 2x780 to a single 1080 should deliver the same performance, but more consistantly, and a bit better with overclock, i dont know if i would go 1080sli though.

I have to admit, I am wondering if going from 2 x 780's to a single 1080 is going to give me much in the way of an improvment....

Maybe I should pull them from the bay? Now I am in crisis!

 

[Sasahara]

And thats advantageous to me how?
I don't give a damn if the chip is 1mm or 20cm. I want it to be faster lol.

It was in response to you question.

How can it have such a higher clock speed and such small gains at 4k?

Not if was advantageous to you.

If they were the same size and performance increased at a flat rate (it almost certainly wouldn't do that) a 601mm² Pascal would be almost 130% faster than a 980ti.

 

[NirK]

From those benchmarks not looking great, but never even seen the guy in that video before so will see what other reviews say. Also the settings he is using are a bit stupid and it could be CPU bottlenecked in GTA V or something so wait for better reviews I say. 4K 8xMSAA vs 1080p 8xMSAA, one is just stupid and the other is probably affected by CPU.

 

[Flying_Hellfish]

Problem is I keep waiting and waiting as there's always something new round the corner.

I know people are getting excited about the 1080 (including myself) but I just have to take a step back and remember that 6 months from now it won't be anything special.

Plus I only play dota2, rocketleague and cs at the moment. Hardly demanding games.

But then again I'm going to buy Doom and if that creaks on my current setup that might force my hand

DooM runs like a dream, I wouldn't have any worries with that

 

[fs123]

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It's strange that Metro:LL is only getting 30fps while ROTTR is 48fps in 4K. Metro is an older, and presumbaly less demanding game and weird that the 1080P result shows a huge increase over the 980ti.

Overall, the 4K results are quite poor and a 1080Ti would have to be twice as fast as the 1080 to get 60fps. Even the FuryX appears to be a match for the 1080 @4K if those results are correct. Maybe the bandwidth requirement at 4K is just too much for the 1080 and any amount of clockspeed can't overcome that.

 

[easyrider]

Why do they still do 1080p test when the card is not even for that res...

 

[MooMoo444]

Because 1080p is still the most commonly played res

 

[wunkley]

Need proper reviews, that one is rubbish really, but the results on show are exactly what I was predicting i.e. very underwhelming. Commiserations perhaps to all the 980Ti panic sellers.

When are the other better reviews out chaps, UK time ??

 

[Greebo]

Dont know exactly what FastSync is yet, but no, it doesn't sound like a replacement for Gsync, nor an all-purpose replacement for vsync. Seems like it's a VR-friendly form of vysnc that comes with a smaller latency penalty.

And if there is any 1080VR card, it might be like the 980Ti they had, which was just the normal 980Ti but with a front panel for the ports, so you're not routing the headset cable from the back of the computer.

From what I have read its a low latency uncapped framerate version of Vsync.

Basically it does what Gsync does but without needing a Gsync monitor.

In theory Freeysnc monitors should work with it......................

 

[Things change I've changed]

@ 1080p it's just not worth it for me as I run every game with adaptive v-sync so I won't even see above 60 frames anyway.

 

[NirK]

But if its true that the 1080 is only 20% faster than a 980ti...

Again... nvidia have just flat out lied in their presentation.....

GTX 970 was 3.5Gb sold as 4Gb

1080 was hyped as 1.8x 980 in tomb raider 1.7x in witcher 3....

If these are lies.... surely they cannot do that.

 

[Rroff]

It's strange that Metro:LL is only getting 30fps while ROTTR is 48fps in 4K. Metro is an older, and presumbaly less demanding game and weird that the 1080P result shows a huge increase over the 980ti.

Metro uses a lot of heavy shader effects - not necessarily to good effect - but none the less in terms of utilising advanced shaders, etc. probably more demanding on the GPU than ROTTR - while at 4K resolution you see where the memory bandwidth and ROPs, etc. haven't moved on from the 980ti - infact without running the maths it is possible the 980ti actually has an advantage in that department that is making up some of the ground it is losing on the rest of the rendering.

 

[Devious]

Seen a few 980ti auctions being pulled lol