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It can also help keep some value to the card. The original Titan and Titan Black 2nd hand prices didn't drop as sharply as the TX did, 980ti being released soon after also didn't help.
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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **
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The compute engine on these cards can be somewhere of a hindrance to the architecture in gaming terms, for a start it will use more power, and the reason Maxwell is clocking 1400Mhz+ is probably because the compute engine is stripped out.
Maybe they should have two branches of GPU's, one Workstation and one Gaming.
Maybe they should have two branches of GPU's, one Workstation and one Gaming.
I'm pretty sure Nvidia will go that route in the future. The cost savings of a single core doesn't make sense when ultimately they will need to be doing different things.
Nvidia are very worried about Intel Xeon Phi so I can see once volta is out that PGPUs and compute hardware become separate chips, although with a somewhat shared architecture.
Nvidia are very worried about Intel Xeon Phi so I can see once volta is out that PGPUs and compute hardware become separate chips, although with a somewhat shared architecture.
TSMC Hit Harder than Expected by Recent Taiwan Earthquake
The recent 6.4 magnitude Taiwan earthquake, which hit the island nation on February 6th, affected TSMC worse than expected. Taiwan's premier semiconductor foundry, TSMC, had initially expected semiconductor wafer shipments to be down by less than 1%, but it is now emerging that the drop in shipments could be higher, because the damage to one of its facilities, Fab-14, is worse than originally assessed.
TSMC, in an official communication to its clients, assured that 95% of the foundry machines could return to functionality within 2-3 days after the earthquake. To that effect, machines in Fab-6 and Fab-14B have been fully restored. Despite the disaster, the company appears confident of reaching revenue targets of US $5.9-6.0 billion for Q1-2016. TSMC is the primary foundry partner of major fabless semiconductor companies, such as Qualcomm, NVIDIA, and AMD. AMD recently moved its next-generation GPU manufacturing to Korean silicon giant Samsung, while NVIDIA is building its next "Pascal" GPU family on TSMC's process.
source : Techpowerup
The recent 6.4 magnitude Taiwan earthquake, which hit the island nation on February 6th, affected TSMC worse than expected. Taiwan's premier semiconductor foundry, TSMC, had initially expected semiconductor wafer shipments to be down by less than 1%, but it is now emerging that the drop in shipments could be higher, because the damage to one of its facilities, Fab-14, is worse than originally assessed.
TSMC, in an official communication to its clients, assured that 95% of the foundry machines could return to functionality within 2-3 days after the earthquake. To that effect, machines in Fab-6 and Fab-14B have been fully restored. Despite the disaster, the company appears confident of reaching revenue targets of US $5.9-6.0 billion for Q1-2016. TSMC is the primary foundry partner of major fabless semiconductor companies, such as Qualcomm, NVIDIA, and AMD. AMD recently moved its next-generation GPU manufacturing to Korean silicon giant Samsung, while NVIDIA is building its next "Pascal" GPU family on TSMC's process.
source : Techpowerup
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also hope this doesnt impact the price too much
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Of course but a certain set of people who had no interest in buying Maxwell made a big fuss about it. I found it funny at the time and seeing that slide reminded me of it was all
lol, same people as usual attempting to rewrite history. nvidia guys, in particular one of you, kept excusing the first Titan's price as being cheap because it offered big DP performance which meant it was great for guys who do compute at home (which is basically no one at all). In fact when everyone else laughed at you guys for throwing £800-900 on a card because it was cheap for home compute/DP performance, the guys desperate to defend Nvidia kept banging on and on and on about how DP was fantastic.
When Titan X came along and was the same price without DP, we pointed that out because the same guys were suddenly billing it as a cheap gaming card and how pointless DP was.
The only people who made a fuss about DP performance itself, was you guys, the people who 'made a fuss' about lacking DP performance in Maxwell were the guys pointing out the hypocrisy of you guys defending the Titan price entirely down to DP/professional card being cheap argument then doing a complete u-turn on this argument when DP went missing in the follow up cards.
DP isn't important for gaming, never was, it also was a horrific reason to 'defend' the first Titan's pricing which as above was compounded when the arguments changed with Titan X losing that single advantage but staying the same price.
The fact also remains that removing compute performance saves power and performance which is a large reason Maxwell is 'more efficient' and smaller compared to Kepler. The fact also appears to remain that as expected Pascal has DP performance and hardware scheduling put back which will have the opposite effect and harm efficiency and increase die size as opposed to a similar gaming powered Maxwell card.
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Pascal is rumoured to be heavily based on Maxwell
Volta seems to be the true generational jump...
But then Volta might not have a node shrink. So it could just be another Maxwell.Pascal is rumoured to be heavily based on Maxwell
Volta seems to be the true generational jump...
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Volta is supposed to be the complete architectural change, not Pascal. It's all conjecture atm, but it'll be interesting to see if Pascal has true Async Shaders for sure.
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I wonder if a 980ti will last at 1440p until Volta.
Personally I think it will, mighty powerful card after all. But when 21:9 DP 1.3 144Hz 1440p monitors land, it'll be out of the running then of course.
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What is DP?
More like 'who'... Don Pascal, godfather of all GPU's. He's the boss, don't upset him, or you'll wake up with a reference AMD card next to you in bed.
People really underestimate how significant a change Maxwell was. Maxwell was a massive new step for Nvidia, pascal on the other hand is going to be a much smaller change. The next major architecture from nvidia is going to be Volta, Pascal is just a stop-gap. If Maxwell could have been released on 20mm then Pascal might not have even existed, except perhaps as a pipe cleaner part to test HBM2 memory controllers