Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[platypus]

no. Why would you think that?

Something to blame? I don't get it.

I'm talking about a wider context than the referendum. The older generation look out for themselves and have systematically taken away the privileges they took for granted from the younger generations.

That they have now voted to take away the right to travel and work freely in the EU is just another long line of rights they've removed from younger people.

 

[SteveOBHave]

I read a lot the last 24 hours going from ageism and racism all way fascism and hypocrisy.

Cool down guys. We have plenty of work in front of us. Infighting ain't going to do that nor help.

Show some patriotism and optimism. We voted for Independence from the EU and possibly we are the only country ever that gained Independence without having few thousands dying on fighting.

I find it hilarious that anyone thinks that now the deed is done that you're going to have any say in the way it plays out. It's back in the politicians hands and they're going to do what pollys do - look after themselves and screw their constituents. There is little to be optimistic about.

 

[delta0]

The EU have already said they will do a deal asap.

"Britons decided yesterday that they want to leave the European Union, so it doesn't make any sense to wait until October to try to negotiate the terms of their departure - I would like to get started immediately."


It was Cameron's fault for this not moving faster.

The EU need to stew for longer. Everyone involved needs to be calm. Then a constructive talk can start. The Germans said this morning they want the UK to be an associated partner.

 

[TwsT]

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ters-eu-referendum-result-proportional-voting

So here’s my challenge to Brexiters: if you’re serious about giving people back control, then join the campaign for a proportional voting system and for an elected second chamber in our parliament. Let’s have a constitutional convention – and take this conversation to the country. This could be the start of something truly cross-party, and genuinely exciting. If we can take anything from this referendum, it’s that the people want more of a voice.

This tbh let's not back out now let's fight for better politics in westminster regardless of your affiliations to left or right.

 

[SteveOBHave]

expected. The rich and elite are throwing their toys out of the pram.

Yeah but the wheres and why-fores don't matter. The end result is that if the countries credit rating falls then it becomes harder to fund economic growth. And who pays for that? The tax payer - and who doesn't typically pay taxes? The rich and elite of which the politicians that lead you all down this path are part of.

 

[Nate75]

I'm talking about a wider context than the referendum. The older generation look out for themselves and have systematically taken away the privileges they took for granted from the younger generations.

That they have now voted to take away the right to travel and work freely in the EU is just another long line of rights they've removed from younger people.

you see I disagree.

 

[SPG]

I find it hilarious that anyone thinks that now the deed is done that you're going to have any say in the way it plays out. It's back in the politicians hands and they're going to do what pollys do - look after themselves and screw their constituents. There is little to be optimistic about.

No Change from the Norm, apart from a few openings for new scumbags.

 

[Sankari]

Come on Deuse.
What have you to say?

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29683113&postcount=5054

'Brexit Leave voters who demanded Britain must "take control of our borders" are in shock today as France tells Britain to take control of her borders.'

The mayor of Calais wants changes to a deal which allows Britain to carry out immigration checks on the French side of the English Channel, after a UK vote to leave the EU.

Natacha Bouchart said Paris must act after Thursday's referendum in which the UK voted to leave the EU.

"The British must take the consequences of their choice," she said on Friday.

Under the 2003 Touquet deal, Britain can carry out check in Calais to stop migrants trying to get to Britain.

Ms Bouchart said: "We are in a strong position to push, to press this request for a review and we are asking the President (Francois Hollande) to bring his weight (to the issue).

"We must put everything on the table and there must be an element of division, of sharing."

Meanwhile, Xavier Bertrand, the president of Hauts-de-France region where Calais is located, said: "The English wanted to take back their freedom: they must take back their border."

The French authorities had warned before the referendum that a vote for leaving the EU could see a camp with thousands of migrants being moved from Calais to British soil.

(Source).

 

[Feronix]

I find it hilarious that anyone thinks that now the deed is done that you're going to have any say in the way it plays out. It's back in the politicians hands and they're going to do what pollys do - look after themselves and screw their constituents. There is little to be optimistic about.

All that would happen if the power shifts from the EU leaders to the UK leaders. 'The normal man' still had no input whatsoever, that's just how politics works.

 

[Buckster]

You do make a point, but also this was 40 years ago. The world is a lot different now. They didn't have cheap flights in and out of Europe, they didn't have jobs such as website designers and other technical things that are huge now.

The internet barely existed, on which they could buy and sell things, discuss situations with people from all over the world and educate themselves.

Even the elderly are jumping in blind and have no idea what to expect. Those who went for a nostalgia vote and think everything will be the way it was 40 years ago are horribly mistaken.

agreed

watching TV this morning - some of the reasons some people voted leave

what a bunch of muppets

 

[Nate75]

I'm talking about a wider context than the referendum. The older generation look out for themselves and have systematically taken away the privileges they took for granted from the younger generations.

That they have now voted to take away the right to travel and work freely in the EU is just another long line of rights they've removed from younger people.

okay I will take it on board mate.

But otherwise I would have to disagree

 

[Strife212]

The endless howls of pain from Leave voters who've suddenly realised the enormity of what they've done will keep me warm during these winter months.

Remainers do like human misery, don't they.

 

[Locky]

'Brexit Leave voters who demanded Britain must "take control of our borders" are in shock today as France tells Britain to take control of her borders.'



(Source).

OR we close the tunnel and check every single ship docking in the UK and put the illegals back on a boat instantly as we won't have the Silly EU laws saying we can't report anyone.

You have 0 say on UK matter you don't even live here and you troll every single thing about the UK in sport and political. I think a ban is in order to be honest.

 

[Concrete]

So much sower grapes, typical of the "younger Generation" me me me attitude.

Well here is the flip side for others in my age group who have worked there asses off for 30 years under the common market and the EU this a big wake up call. Like the so called younger generation I voted what is best for me, not YOU.

Its actually quite warming that you think I have help doom a generation Which i havent.

Just remember these words if everything goes completely **** up and they are stringing you and your family members up from a lamp post.

 

[Nate75]

Remainers do like human misery, don't they.

no they don't - can we move on pls?

 

[delta0]

'Brexit Leave voters who demanded Britain must "take control of our borders" are in shock today as France tells Britain to take control of her borders.'



(Source).

Actually France want to keep the treaty in place. It is only Calais that wanted to move the passport control. Then Calais said but we don't want to lose trade to the UK through Calais. I'm sure Calais will come to ther senses but ultimately they don't make the decision that is France. I'm sure this will all be irrelevant in a few months once the negotiations get going.

 

[deuse]

snip

Already posted. Please keep up Troll.

 

[SteveOBHave]

All that would happen if the power shifts from the EU leaders to the UK leaders. 'The normal man' still had no input whatsoever, that's just how politics works.

Yes - however this has been a power play from the likes of Farage, Boris and UKIP. They won and the average Joe will pay all the while floating along under the illusion that they've reclaimed their country. All that has actually happened is that the UKs economy has been damaged, it's ability to leverage the GBP to purchase goods and services has been weakened and Joe will have to pay more day to day... meanwhile Farage will take that poop eating grin of his all the way to parliament.

 

[platypus]

Show some patriotism and optimism. We voted for Independence from the EU and possibly we are the only country ever that gained Independence without having few thousands dying on fighting.

It's falsely, over the top, obsequious, toadying patriotism like this that is part of the problem.

We were always an independent country, we haven't fought a war, we didn't avoid blood shed. To even try and liken it to the American war of independence when thousands died as well is in incredibly poor taste.

 

[Nate75]

Yes - however this has been a power play from the likes of Farage, Boris and UKIP. They won and the average Joe will pay all the while floating along under the illusion that they've reclaimed their country. All that has actually happened is that the UKs economy has been damaged, it's ability to leverage the GBP to purchase goods and services has been weakened and Joe will have to pay more day to day... meanwhile Farage will take that poop eating grin of his all the way to parliament.

it's not as simple as that