Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[chief barker]

Great news, badk to pointlessly inefficient and wasteful lighting!

Who is going to bother making them just for us though?

Get a grip Fox your'e losing your cool

 

[Mauller]

Just think we can have proper light bulbs again.

Talking about light bulbs, it is actually worth moving over to LED light with the advent of Light based wireless networking. Using your lights in your house for high speed wireless while you are sat under them.

 

[Darujhistan]

Originally Posted by maccapacca View Post
No one eats fish. It's always in the reduced section at supermarkets it's not magically going to become popular because we can fish more of it.

Plus quite a bit goes abroad anyway. Will the Spanish still buy our lobsters?


No-one eats fish?

 

[[TW]Fox]

Us

You honestly think there is now a sufficient market to start up production and sale of inefficient high energy domestic bulbs?

This would be funny if wasn't so tragic.

 

[thenewoc]

I can't wait to buy a more powerful vacuum cleaner

You'll need tougher non EU carpet to cope with it

 

[Mauller]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

Quotas are good.

Quotas and controlled fishing are a good thing, only getting 20% of them and having our fishing fleet (made up of lots of independent fishers) muscled off the bargaining table by large foreign fleets is not.

 

[robfosters]

you'll get to work on time easier thanks to quicker toasters and the missus won't take so long getting out of the door thanks to more powerful hair dryers.

 

[wordy]

Not seen it mentioned yet but is no one else ecstatic that this means the end to the TTIP in Britain?

The UK was the main enthusiasm for TTIP within the EU!!!

It's honestly breathtaking how little people bothered to try and understand before making a decision.

I am, I was undecided & it was TTIP that swung it to leave for me.

Everyone, bar one person I spoke to about the referendum (on both sides) said "What's that?" when I mentioned TTIP. The guy who knew what it was said he was undecided & it swung to leave for him.

TTIP was already dead. The UK was one of its biggest supporters though so we could see something very similar in any trade deal we negotiate with the US.

It's still alive, it's under threat but still alive & with our government so hell bent on it I wasn't confident enough that it would die.

Yes, I worry our muppet will work their own deal, to benefit themselves and their friends in large corps as the expense of the taxpayer getting to fund court cases ad infinitum against American corps.
Not even related to the NHS, but to anything else.
No trade agreement should ever allow a government to be sued if decisions the government makes hurt foreign companies profits.

I'm sure they will try, but at least now they will have to get it past the British electorate & if they do get it in then we can only blame ourselves.

 

[Mauller]

You'll need tougher non EU carpet to cope with it

Just think about it, we can put the BS back into products!
Many of which are actually more rigorous than some EU standards.

 

[Third Opinion]

Amazing how anyone in the UK believes we can be part of a Union of other countries. We cannot even unite in this country and accept a democratic vote.

It defies belief the comments by people who think that certain votes should be discarded or void due to education or class.

The sorriest thing about this referendum is to see how this country is in reverse gear regarding democracy.

For better or for worse we need to press on united, I understand people are scared of the unknown however this country has a long history of coming back strong from difficult times.

 

[Mulder]

What do you think it tells you?

That Eurozone economies are in big trouble, way worse than any short term Brexit impact, and I tried to point this out many times in the previous threads. The Euro is in serious trouble, they've been kicking the can down the road up to now.

Besides, UK equities were lower even just earlier this year:

FTSE 250 is down 7%, to 16,088. It almost hit 15,000 back in February.
FTSE 100 is down 3%, to 6,138. It was below 5,500 back in February.

Compare that to Italy’s FTSE MIB and Spain's IBEX, both down 12.5% and Athens equities down 13.5%.

 

[Rilot]

You honestly think there is now a sufficient market to start up production and sale of inefficient high energy domestic bulbs?

This would be funny if wasn't so tragic.

Indeed. Even the US are phasing them out.

 

[Darujhistan]

It's amazing the number of people I know who have never given two hoots about the economy but now they don't get their way it's all "but look at the stock market!". UK equities were down less than the Eurozone, which tells you something.

Financial experts have increased by over 47% since Thursday according to my sources.

They're not bothered about the economy at all, they're bothered about their wealth. That's all they care about, virtually every argument they make is ££££ orientated.

I think things will stabilise, and I actually don't think the fallout so far has been that bad.

 

[Nate--IRL--]

I'm sure they will try, but at least now they will have to get it past the British electorate & if they do get it in then we can only blame ourselves.

You think you'll get a vote on that? It will be implemented between General Elections, to absolutely no fanfare.

Nate

 

[[TW]Fox]

I am, I was undecided & it was TTIP that swung it to leave for me.

Everyone, bar one person I spoke to about the referendum (on both sides) said "What's that?" when I mentioned TTIP. The guy who knew what it was said he was undecided & it swung to leave for him.



It's still alive, it's under threat but still alive with our government so hell bent on it I wasn't confident enough that it would die.

Voting leave has just made it more likely - without the objections from other EU countries our government is free to make a trade deal that fits what they want.

Which from all the TTIP stuff may well be the opposite of what you voted leave about.

 

[wordy]

You think you'll get a vote on that? It will be implemented between General Elections, to absolutely no fanfare.

Nate

No, but if it's a damaging as it appears then the next election the opposition could make a massive issue about it.

 

[Tefal]

It's not petty childishness. Encouraging Europe wide referendums by giving us what we want (ie all the trade bits that suit us but nothing else that other EEA countries have) will jeopardise things for the EU far more than dishing out a bad deal to us will.

Well it is petty childishness as thats how children think.

Did the risk of a bad deal stop us voting out?


You cant get more childish than "if you leave you get put on the naughty step".

Anyone who belives goving the uk a bad deal eould stop a country having a refferendum is beyond stupid.


Stip thinking in terms of months or next year start thinking about 10, 20, 30 years from now.

How long would the eu have to "punish the uk"?

Forever more?

 

[SteveOBHave]

Amazing how anyone in the UK believes we can be part of a Union of other countries. We cannot even unite in this country and accept a democratic vote.

It defies belief the comments by people who think that certain votes should be discarded or void due to education or class.

The sorriest thing about this referendum is to see how this country is in reverse gear regarding democracy.

For better or for worse we need to press on united, I understand people are scared of the unknown however this country has a long history of coming back strong from difficult times.

Yep, that's the spirit. You've done a silly thing, accept it and move on with the consequences. Now who was it with the exit plan and the rational analysis of how this was going to effect the economy... Oh that's right, no one has a clue!

 

[Amp34]

Very arrogant of you to say how or why I voted without knowing or speaking to me. I was pointing out that both parties came up with insane arguments if you read my post instead of just judging me. These were the most broadcasted and spoke about claims.

Just because you have people like Farage spurting out rubbish doesn't mean all leavers support his words or claims. You might have based your vote on tv personalities but that doesn't mean the rest of the country did. David Beckham voted remain, I guess we should do what he suggests?

Please do educate me with your facts. I am open minded.

No where in that post did I insinuate or state how or why you voted.

What I did point out was that your three points were complete misrepresentations of what was actually said AND that many leave voters (such as many on this forum that have specifically said it, and the guy that was part of the leave campaign on the election coverage, but not necessarily you) have completely disregarded expert/professional opinion on the subject.

 

[Jono8]

That Eurozone economies are in big trouble, way worse than any short term Brexit impact, and I tried to point this out many times in the previous threads. The Euro is in serious trouble, they've been kicking the can down the road up to now.

Besides, UK equities were lower even just earlier this year:

FTSE 250 is down 7%, to 16,088. It almost hit 15,000 back in February.
FTSE 100 is down 3%, to 6,138. It was below 5,500 back in February.

Compare that to Italy’s FTSE MIB and Spain's IBEX, both down 12.5% and Athens equities down 13.5%.

Again, financial markets have been pricing in the brexit for months and months. We've been suffering because of the uncertainty of this referendum for ages.