Poll: *The Official PlayStation (PS5/PS5 Pro) Thread*

Will you be buying a PS5 Pro on release?

  • Yes

    Votes: 52 15.6%

  • No (not at £700 Lol)

    Votes: 193 57.8%

  • No (other)

    Votes: 74 22.2%

  • Pancake

    Votes: 15 4.5%
  • Total voters
    334
McManicMan said:
Sorry, Had to be done,

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First time I think I can say I've found myself in agreement with Hitler! lol

But yeah, pretty much the same point I was making. If it had a disc drive it'd be somewhat understandable, as a £200-250 upgrade over a base system for better internals. £200-250 with the £100 Optical Drive MISSING meaning the upgrade is really costing £300+ makes this a bit of a joke at face value; especially as the PS5 really should have come down in price by now, at least based on the pricing of every other system and generation we've had. Arguably the base model should now be £300, standard with disc should be £350-400, and the pro should be £600 at max, with the disc drive. It's not like they've stuck a better CPU in this thing, so far it's literally just a better GPU.

I know production and silicon is costing more now, but realistically there have been improvements, old production nodes now cost less, and if this is using a newer node, that costs more, but reduces the size of the silicon so that offsets the increased cost per mm. This is very realistically Sony trying to see what they can get away with.
I'm not even saying they shouldn't have released a ODD-less PS5 Pro, but they should have announced them both immediately, maybe PS5 Pro at £650/Disc Edition at £700. (or 700/750).

As it is, it just feels like a cost cut/profit expand from Sony, so they need to do a really good job of convincing us why we should care. Sony wants to sell in volume to make this worth it, and I'm just not convinced yet it does enough at that price to achieve that.

An enthusiast console missing both stand and ODD (a core component) feels like a misjudged enthusiast console for sure; an enthusiast machine should have EVERYTHING, all the bells and whistles. This badly misses the mark there.
 
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Key difference too that few other sites have touched on PS4 Pro was needed in some aspects

They did improve the cpu, features people got more use of.

The PS5 Pro doesn’t really fit with anything. We’re still stuck in cross gen phase so I don’t even think standard PS5 has been fully used to its potential.

I do think however we are reaching point that from a visual stand point we won’t see huge leaps regardless even come PS6

What we need is optimisation to actually be done!
 
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Honestly the price is in a territory where you can build a computer with similar specs, I can still see the appeal for the console but those that know computers can just build a better system for little more and PC games cost less than PS5 games overall. The PS5 does not have may exclusives anymore wait 1 year and the game gets released on PC anyway. You now just buying PS5 for convenience.
 
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It is a crazy price no doubt-especially what with day to day prices being what they are, but then it’s no different to someone potentially spending £1100 on an iPhone when the regular one does 90% of what the more expensive one does for a lot less.

And by not budging on the RRP of the base PS5 for the most part, now the Pro is a thing they have normalised the price of the regular and people will see a £220 saving and end up with that.

It’s merely bells and whistles at this point and while I personally wouldn’t pay £700 for a PS Pro if someone’s made peace with that amount and are happy to spend it and get the premium experience then good luck to em.
 
Mark1989 said:
Key difference too that few other sites have touched on PS4 Pro was needed in some aspects

They did improve the cpu, features people got more use of.

The PS5 Pro doesn’t really fit with anything. We’re still stuck in cross gen phase so I don’t even think standard PS5 has been fully used to its potential.

I do think however we are reaching point that from a visual stand point we won’t see huge leaps regardless even come PS6

What we need is optimisation to actually be done!
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I'd agree here,

I honestly don't fire up my ps5 and think, this needs to look better..

I play most things on performance mode to get that 60fps and just enjoy what little we have this gen.

If I'm going to chase graphics and fps, I might as well go for it properly and build a PC again.

The PS4 Pro was at a price where it was a birthday or Christmas present to yourself when you had gotten a couple hundred quid in cards that took the sting out of the price.
£700 shows intent.

We will be paying monthly next gen, it will be a PS6 and games catalogue monthly payment option.
 
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I am primarily a PC gamer but also have the base PS5. I have no intention of getting a PRO, but not selling with a disc drive is bad enough. What gets me the most is not including a cheap plastic/metal stand for a console that is primarily used in a vertical position. It makes my angry how Sony are treating it's customers with petty things like this. Why not just include the stand? That's like selling a new car with no seats. I think many gamers will be switching over to PC in the future.
 
AMDPower said:
Honestly the price is in a territory where you can build a computer with similar specs, I can still see the appeal for the console but those that know computers can just build a better system for little more and PC games cost less than PS5 games overall. The PS5 does not have may exclusives anymore wait 1 year and the game gets released on PC anyway. You now just buying PS5 for convenience.
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Indeed you are - and most "regular people" do not want to be involved with a PC for gaming.
They want the convenience of a console. They want to jump into their comfy seat, press the power button on their controller and be playing a game 20 seconds later.
They don't want to be seeing what Windows update has broken, which driver they need to use for a specific game because it has been optimised.

People buy a console because they know it'll play every single game released during that generation and most likely, half of the next generation. No work required, either pop ion the disc or download from the store.

These are two completely separate markets.
I left PC gaming behind many years ago because it's the speed and convenience of console gaming that I want.
 
I think overall, it was a bad sales pitch. The timing of the release is bad, there is nothing new, nothing big, no game came out recently which can really show case this.

The demo of "look at the crowds in the background in Ratchet" was silly IMO, I mean how many people look at those crowds in the distance? In fact, they should be slightly out of focus due to depth of field for realism. If they had to zoom in to see the difference then it's not big enough for me to care.

Their own comparisons were a own goal, either they picked all the wrong things to show case or the difference is really that small, in which case it really doesn't make the new console worth it. Either way, it was a rather bad pitch.
 
I am surprised that everyone's favourite Spanish guy Juan Joya Borja has nothing to say on the matter.. ;)

BTW i am very aware that he died a few years ago but that has not stopped people making memes ;)
 
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