What do you mean by predator birthers? If you actually mean Predator as in the movie Predator, you best get your coat now
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What do you mean by predator birthers? If you actually mean Predator as in the movie Predator, you best get your coat now
Early script might have been for a b movie but they filmed it as an A.
What do you mean by predator birthers? If you actually mean Predator as in the movie Predator, you best get your coat now
I'll just hand it straight to him, no need to for him to fetch it
pretty much my opinion. They took parts from all the other films and threw them together with very poor and weak connections. Very little made sense IMO. The caveman/zombie fightscene was completely pointless.
So is the idea the aliens were originally tiny little meal worms, hence their parasitical nature? The black toxin (X-Files anyone?!) mutates life, so step by step (through new DNA from humans and engineers) the worms eventually mutate into the aliens we know?
Regarding the comment earlier about the AvP films. Forget that. They are not set in the ALIEN universe and do not follow its lore.
The engineer was ****ed about being woken up because essentially he is our creator and to speak so abruptly on the same level as him would be insulting, especially through a crudely designed android. I think its fair to say we're nothing to them, and to speak on level terms with an ancient species you would get that type of response.
So do you think the Aliens were an accident? Or it was meant to be like that? Otherwise this confuses me about their weapon of mass destruction.
You see, only TV series writer could base entire fate of the movie on something that would otherwise require voice over narrative or second part for. Rule number one of the cinema movie world, including stories written with possible sequels in mind is to treat story line like sequel was never going to happen. Unless this is called Prometheus Part 1, the writer must tie up all the story lines and make it stand alone. This isn't Lost, there will be no continuation next week. It will take years to do the reveal. That's not how cinema stories are done. Even productions like Star Trek or X-Files in film versions had to be a->b, beginning to end wrap ups.
My beef is not as much with Ridley, as we all know he's a vision and look guy and cannot do Directors Cuts for life. Even Blade Runner DC is edited for consistent pace and tempo has script and scene holes, and he only had several decades to do it properly. My beef is with screenwriter. Lindelof, dude! You're no longer writing for weekly instalments. Give it to someone to proof you a-hole, if you can't get your head around all the cuts and additions. Why would you spend 10 minutes showing us some stupid "I'm not a robot" sexual innuendo and 15 minutes of irrelevant "action" scenes like Shaw being kicked around sand storm with a Engineer head bag or bizarro world The Thing zombie geologist wiping half the crew we don't even remember names of just to run out of time for coherent timeline for the last hour. In the last hour nothing in character interaction makes sense, no one tells anybody about anything and most of the characters have immediate amnesia. We don't even remember what happened to half of the crew.
If you didn't know what to do with crew of 17, cut it down to 7-8, the pilot can crash the ship on his own, he doesn't need two more crew members we even forgot they existed, you don't need to create weird zombies to kill off half a dozen nearly nameless characters in garage bay. Captain, pilot, engineer, two scientists, biologist, geologist, doctor and David. They wake up, they have breakfast, they interact, they build up relationship. Pilot has crash on Captain. Biologist builds friendship with geologist, it's then easier to understand why they stayed behind together, why one tried to save the other, etc. That way we also remember their names, we relate, we care. We don't need entire plane of people and then surprise reveal that there is additional tail section. You won't be running 24 episodes in a season. It made no sense to hide Wayland in walls. You didn't even have to make him old, terminal disease was enough and Vickers could be his younger sister. There is a difference between "whoa" moment and "WTF" moment in movie. You don't have to make things weird to achieve them.
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That particular "breed" or "species" of WMD, yes. The oil basically transforms the DNA. By essentially mixing the DNA of the worm, the human and engineer we are given the first stage of the ALIEN style xenomorph. I think the idea of this black oil is very much copied from the XFiles.
I went to see this today and I agree with a lot of what v0n said. When The Engineer got into his seat to launch the ship and the helmet and and suit wrapped around him I thought "Nice, that fits in percectly with Alien and shows him exactly as the Nostromo's crew found him". Suddenly, though, he somehow leaves the suit and attacks Noomi. WTF?! He was the only living Engineer so who the hell is in the chair?
Some nice touchs but I suspect that the more I watch Prometheus the less I will like it.
Some nice touchs but I suspect that the more I watch Prometheus the less I will like it.
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Re the snake things that attacked the guys in the tomb. They made a point of showing a worm moving in one of the crews footprints in one scene.
Is it possible that the black goo ending up on the floor made them turn into super killer snake things?
Also the engineer managed to survive crashing back onto a planet, escaping the crashed ship even though it was up on its side and was still looking to **** up Noomi. I don't blame him really!
Is it possible that the black goo ending up on the floor made them turn into super killer snake things?
Also the engineer managed to survive crashing back onto a planet, escaping the crashed ship even though it was up on its side and was still looking to **** up Noomi. I don't blame him really!
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I was pretty confused where the snakes came from and how we ended up with a xenomorph in the end. Shame about that guy getting out of the chair too, figured it was going to fit in better with alien.
Well, given that the Space Jock in Alien was *fused* to his chair, it's a pretty big deviation anyhow.
"Alien life form. Looks like it's been dead a long time. Fossilized. Looks like it's growing out of the chair" --Alien.
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That was easily worked in in the sense that the navigation suit is part of the chair. The actual host in Alien was inside.
That probably wasn't H.R. Giger's intention when he designed the thing tho, was it.
It was done for convenience, you suspect, so that they could be another bi-pedal race like ourselves.
Here's a good interview with Ridley Scott about Prometheus:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43898.0
Scott confirms that the events which take place on the planet in Prometheus is not the same planet as Alien. Also if the film is successful and well received he wants to do another two films which would lead up to Alien.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43898.0
Scott confirms that the events which take place on the planet in Prometheus is not the same planet as Alien. Also if the film is successful and well received he wants to do another two films which would lead up to Alien.
He's said from a few months ago it is his intention if he does sequels to do two more, not just the one.
As long as lindelof isn't involved in the next, I don't mind
And if it's not well received because he paced the story incoherently for three parts (which at age of 74, is a brave call too), then what? Sell the rights to J.J. Abrams for tv series so they can mess around with it for 8 years? 